Author Topic: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........  (Read 2640 times)

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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 07 September 17 13:51 BST (UK) »

[There is a marriage in 1920 for one Bertha Marie Dobbie but I think I was probably climbing the wrong tree with this one.]


Yes  ...  climbing wrong tree  ;D ... this Bertha Marie DOBBIE (m. Christopher Finlayson HUNTER) died in 1966 and is buried with her husband (d. 1952) at Wyndham Cemetery, Southland.

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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 07 September 17 21:31 BST (UK) »
Just wondering if a funeral directors record might still these days list all marriages.

I think back to a look-up I did at the Auckland Library of a funeral directors register and these were listed albeit with dubious 'facts' on age at marriage etc  ;)

Was there a death notice?
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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 07 September 17 23:40 BST (UK) »
Rootschat is a bit like the story about 'The Elves and the Shoemaker'; you wake up in the morning and hey presto! the work is done.  ;D

Thanks to you all. Twiggy Tree I'm hoping there was a death notice; Bertha Mary PETCH died in a car accident. I have contacted the Hastings library to ask for a look up so will see how that goes.

Lu you have confirmed that Alexander Edward Theodore & Alexander Edward Tudor were one and the same as I suspected.

Part quote from Lu......

"Of interest though in 1946, in the same electorate, Bertha Mary GREEN - married, and Frederick William GREEN, labourer, are at # 205 Hobson Street. 
[A E T ANDERSON is in 1946 at Grays Ave, newspaper seller.]"

The 1944 Archives divorce record-

Erkell, Bertha Mary otherwise known as Anderson, Bertha Mary v Anderson, Alexander Edward Tudor.

John has advised marriage 1944 records show ERKELL to GREEN.

Will have a look through PP for Green as suggested by Lu.


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 September 17 01:52 BST (UK) »
Quote from: minniehaha
I'm hoping there was a death notice; Bertha Mary PETCH died in a car accident. I have contacted the Hastings library to ask for a look up so will see how that goes.

Hi Minnie...

Here you go... a dropbox link to the newspaper report and death notice for Mrs PETCH.

From page 1 of the Hawke's Bay Herald Tribune of Oct 15 1962.

Just X the pop-up box asking you to sign into DropBox.

http://tinyurl.com/ybm4r2cy

And cos it's two images zipped into one zip file you might have to download the file to your computer before you can see the images. Just choose Download/DirectDownload.

Any problems let me know.

All the best
Beg


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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #13 on: Friday 08 September 17 03:38 BST (UK) »

Part quote from Lu......

"Of interest though in 1946, in the same electorate, Bertha Mary GREEN - married, and Frederick William GREEN, labourer, are at # 205 Hobson Street. 
[A E T ANDERSON is in 1946 at Grays Ave, newspaper seller.]"

The 1944 Archives divorce record-

Erkell, Bertha Mary otherwise known as Anderson, Bertha Mary v Anderson, Alexander Edward Tudor.

John has advised marriage 1944 records show ERKELL to GREEN.


Minniehaha.

Not quite sure what > if anything > above, is being queried ???


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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #14 on: Friday 08 September 17 04:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Lu,

"Not quite sure what > if anything > above, is being queried ???"

Nothing at all being queried.   :) The fact that marriage number three to GREEN took place under the name of ERKELL rather than ANDERSON is even more confirmation that this is the correct Bertha Mary.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #15 on: Friday 08 September 17 04:51 BST (UK) »
Beg, thank you very much for the death notice and accident report. Both downloaded and printed out perfectly........ :)


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #16 on: Friday 08 September 17 07:37 BST (UK) »
Tidying up a loose end; a marriage of Frederick William GREEN [third husband of Bertha Mary]:

1910/5954     Rachael Isabella   Brown   Frederick William   Green

Death of this wife [1936]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19361212.2.2.4?query=frederick%20william%20green


Minniehaha.



HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: DOBBIE Bertha Mary. Joining the dots........
« Reply #17 on: Friday 08 September 17 08:12 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me where the son of Bertha Mary was buried/cremated please?


1983/43406   Erkell         Ira Martin           10 April 1918


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.