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Offline Carol gent

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The Gents !
« on: Friday 22 September 17 15:50 BST (UK) »
Hello all.
Still going round in circles, and would like to find out fathers name for illegitimate children of Mary Gent from Terrington St Clements,Norfolk.
Thomas, b 15-12-1795 d 3-3-1798
Ann born and died 1799
Richard 1 b 1793 d 1797
Richard 2 b 1801
Mary did have a brother James b 1746- d 1803
Many thanks as always!
Carol.

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Re: The Gents !
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 September 17 19:14 BST (UK) »
Unless a potential father is named on a baptism record (or unless children were given a likely surname as a second forename) it will be well-nigh impossible to name a father.  Your best hope would be if there are either parish minutes or bastardy claims.

Did Mary marry after 1801 and, if so, did the groom live in the same parish?  This could give a possible father, but it would not be definite.

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Re: The Gents !
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 September 17 07:28 BST (UK) »
The youngest Richard baptized 26 June 1801 son of Mary Gent, spurious i.e. illegitimate seems to be the only one to survive child hood married 6 January 1823 to Jane Bonnet, by License with consent of parents.
Track down the license if it still exists and see what it says.

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Re: The Gents !
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 September 17 07:41 BST (UK) »
Norfolk Records Office has the following Terrington St Clement Parish Council 1728-1953 ref PC121.

In a separate file MC1932 is bastardy bonds, settlement papers of the parish 1712-1895.

So I would check with the Norfolk Record Office and see if they will do a search for you 1793-1815
just in case the last one was not filed until she needed parish relief.
When he reached 14 the council may have apprenticed him out. 

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Re: The Gents !
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 September 17 09:21 BST (UK) »
Track down the license if it still exists and see what it says

Starting here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1L8-J3?i=789&cc=1824690&cat=437050

Four images. It was that brief period when baptism details had to be provided. Lucky for some!
Although for Jane, under twenty one, we have her parents declaration of consent.

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Re: The Gents !
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 September 17 09:29 BST (UK) »
Hi amongd.
Thanks for your reply, I will certainly contact the NRO. I just need pointing in right direction, you are all clever and helpful people on this forum!
Thanks again
Carol.




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Re: The Gents !
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 September 17 09:32 BST (UK) »
Hi jon65.
Thanks for your reply I will have ago searching that.looks like I'm going to be a busy girl.
Thanks Carol.

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Re: The Gents !
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 September 17 16:10 BST (UK) »
You may already have this:

MARY Gent married James NEVE, 9 Nov 1808, St Clement, Terrington St Clement
Both single
Witnesses, Frances Jewson/William Porter
Bride and Witness 2 sign X

Francis Jewson may be a Brother in Law, as a Francis JEWSON married Frances GENT 5 Oct 1808 same Church

Children were;
JAMES Neave  28 May 1809, buried 7 Oct 1809, infant
JAMES Neave 4 Nov 1810


Burials same Church;
JAMES Neve 21 Jan 1843 age 75
MARY Neave 15 June 1847 age 80

1841 Census has a Mary Neve age 70 in Terrington

James Jnr married Mary MORGAN 11 Dec 1833

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Re: The Gents !
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 September 17 20:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish,
Thanks for info, I haven't come across this lot yet, but I will keep them in mind!
Thanks
Carol.