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Glas Carnog
« on: Wednesday 27 September 17 20:23 BST (UK) »
I have this marriage 1920 for my grand uncle Hugh (O) Neill to Kathleen Gillespie,for some reason or other it was not registered till 28th Oct 1946, N City W, Bla Cliath it shows up on irish Genealogy but image not viewable for 1920.
The priest was Diarmuid Ceallachain,not having much luck finding him either.

The name of the Church is Glas Caornog or Caonog with a fada over the last o.

I am only interested in the location of the church or name in English which seems from my basic Gaelic to be Green Square ?

any ideas ?

Dathai

added the Brides address was Dorset St,Lower, Grooms Poolbeg St

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Re: Glas Carnog
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 September 17 20:49 BST (UK) »
Could the priest be still alive in 1971?
Ever hear of a Ven Archdeacon???
http://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/search?q=what%3A%22O%27Ceallachain%2C+Ven+Archdeacon+Diarmuid%2C+P.P.%22

http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/nbl/lh_nbl_show5.php?id=096390

Archdeacon Diarmuid Ó Ceallacháin, broke ranks with fellow priests and received Roger Casement’s remains when they returned to Dublin.

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Re: Glas Carnog
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 September 17 21:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sinann
                        looks like a toss up between Dermot and Jeremiah for Diarmuid

theres  Jeremiah age 23 born Cork at Holy Cross in 1901
61 here
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003678578/

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Re: Glas Carnog
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 September 17 21:42 BST (UK) »
 Senator William O’Callaghan was the brother of the Archdeacon I posted, if we can find he was born in Cork, the senator's son had the family home in Cork
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/innovative-hotelier-and-distiller-of-prize-winning-apple-brandy-1.647794

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 September 17 21:51 BST (UK) »
He had a brother Jeremiah and they were from Cork.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_O%27Callaghan_(politician)

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Re: Glas Carnog
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Re: Glas Carnog
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 September 17 23:19 BST (UK) »
Glas Caonóg is Berkeley Road Church.
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Re: Glas Carnog
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 September 17 00:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dublin1850 on Wednesday 27 September 17 23:19 BST (UK)
Glas Caonóg is Berkeley Road Church.
Excellent
and I see someone had the same question on Boards.ie and gave this cert as an example
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1929/09064/5279416.pdf
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056680187

They even found the priests connection to the church.

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Re: Glas Carnog
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 September 17 08:26 BST (UK) »
Thank you Dublin1850 for finding that church it does appear like a bit of makey up Irish.

Sinann that was an interesting link to Boards but i think they have gone a bit awry there,
I could not see a man writing his name as Diarmuid Ceallachain making that mistake for the name Cassidy first off his mothers name is Nora born Cork while he James/Seamus is born Tipperary and the Senators family are from Cork with mother Catherine.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Berkeley_Street/1325311/

edited to add Nora actually filled out the 1901 return in Irish
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003755450/
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