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If anyone can find anything further about either Thomas or Susanne in the London area, I'd be grateful.
I found this reference:
London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Name:    Thomas Aubert
Spouse:    Susanne Poret
Residence:    Middlesex

Other records I have found relate to residence in Warwickshire (1707 Thomas, child baptism & death, 1710 daughter baptism; record relating to a first marriage in Warwicks. found) and the baptism of a son, Bartholemy Thomas, in London French Huguenot church in 1729, with mother Susanne: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ27-WYT and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5LG-MS1.

I'm wondering if this one could be Susanne? (Anne Susanne) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5LG-ZFC - this would make her about 34 at the time of the baptism...

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Re: London&Surrey, Marriage Bonds and Alleg'ns, Thomas Aubert & Susanne Poret, 1700s
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 September 17 13:06 BST (UK) »
Hi
Have you got the actual marriage at the Leicester Fields Protestant Chapel.
It doesn't given too many more details but has the following witnesses
Francis Poret
Anne Poret
Guilliame Poret
M.A G Aubert

 I think you have the right Poret family.

An entry on the apprentice tax for a Francis Porett peruke maker of St Anns Westminster looks like her father in 7.11.1712 taking on Peter s of Dan Blettau merchant as an apprentice.
However
Francis died at St Giles in the Fields.And his Will is at Ancestry London Wills.
His beloved wife Elizabeth nee Longpro (DE Lonpre) for life and hopefully if my two children Peter and Suzanne now wife of Thomas Aubert behave dutifully to her she will distribute her estate amongst them.
Made 21 Jan 1730/31.

Baptisms for the couple
Ann Susanne 11.1.1696 you already have at Glasshouse (godmother Susanne de Londpre)
Marie 28.11.1697  Glasshouse St Chapel corde  enormandee (is that from Normandy?)
Catherine born 27.4.1699 same bapt 30th
Marie Anne  15.2.1701 Rider Court French Huguenot chapel (Francis and Ann Elizabeth)
Esther 1.5.1702  Newport Market London
Peter/Pierre 30.7.1704  same
William 8.12.1706 23 days St Anne Westminster
Marieanne  25 May 1709 Rider Court Chapel

Francis had signed at petition in favour of clemency for a Peter Viel in 1719 (on London Lives Website).


1723 and a rate book for Westminster has a Francis Poret in Rider Court.
Obviously we don't know if there are 1 or 2 men called Francis Poret and he's changed his job from peruke maker to Victualler but I bet there was just the one.

Sorry but I got nowhere with the Auberts

ps there is a Thomas Aubert marrying Mary Terrey at Knowle 28.6.1707 .I would guess that Thomas is their child.

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Re: London&Surrey, Marriage Bonds and Alleg'ns, Thomas Aubert & Susanne Poret, 1700s
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 September 17 14:06 BST (UK) »

Have you got the actual marriage at the Leicester Fields Protestant Chapel.


Hi Ciderdrinker

No, I don't have any marriage details, just the baptism of Barthelemy.  That's great - thanks very much for all of that.

I'm still in the process of putting the Auberts together - I have Thomas' marriage to Mary Terr(e)y, and two children by her; my supposition at this point is that after her death, he went down to London and married Susanne. The first daughter died aged 3; the second daughter possibly moved to Ladbroke and had her name spelt incorrectly when she married John Mumford.

(This all arose from an enquiry I posted in the Warwickshire forum ages ago and came back to recently - it's actually probably/possibly the second daughter with the first wife I was following up for my bloodline - but the Huguenot connection is interesting and I got sidetracked into reading up a bit about them!)

Thanks for the tip about the London Lives website - that may be useful for other searches!

I'll build the records and come back to this tomorrow if I have any other questions (it's night-time here in Australia).

Mel

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Re: London&Surrey, Marriage Bonds and Alleg'ns, Thomas Aubert & Susanne Poret, 1700s
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 October 17 02:49 BST (UK) »
Hi
Have you got the actual marriage at the Leicester Fields Protestant Chapel.
It doesn't given too many more details but has the following witnesses
Francis Poret
Anne Poret
Guilliame Poret
M.A G Aubert

Oh, I forgot to post this record I also found yesterday:
Name: Thomas Aubert
Recordset: RG4
Event: Marriage of Thomas Aubert
County: London
Year of Event: 1728
(As you probably know, RG4 contains registers of births, baptisms, deaths, burials and marriages in the National Archives.)

This would suggest that Thomas married Susanne in the year before Bartholemey's birth.

Did you mean that the Leicester Fields Protestant Chapel was where this marriage took place? I wonder who Anne is - unless it refers to Anne Susanne, the bride? And M.A.G. Aubert?

(I suppose it is just possible that there was an unrecorded son called Thomas with his wife Mary before or between the daughters, and that this Thomas is the son, so I'll keep that in mind. However there's no evidence of this as yet.)


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Re: London&Surrey, Marriage Bonds and Alleg'ns, Thomas Aubert & Susanne Poret, 1700s
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 October 17 10:30 BST (UK) »
Hello
Yes the marriage took place at the French Huguenot church.
I'd guess Anne Poret may be her mother Anne Elizabeth Poret but M.A.G Aubert I don't know.
M.A always suggests Mary Ann to me but that's just a guess.

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Re: London&Surrey, Marriage Bonds and Alleg'ns, Thomas Aubert & Susanne Poret, 1700s
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 October 17 10:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

Ah yes, probably, on all counts (although I won't assume Mary Anne, or possibly Marie Anne, for my records).

I'll have to come back to this in a couple of days when I have time again.

Cheers,
Mel