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1939 Register
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 15:08 BST (UK) »


Why would the family be 'closed' in 1939 Register when the person died in 1977?

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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 15:33 BST (UK) »
If it's a married woman, it's not so easy to match the death registration entry with the 1939 entry
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 16:00 BST (UK) »
There were also rumours that some hospitals & doctors failed to inform the authorities about deaths of patients.
Allegedly because they were paid according to the number of patients they had!
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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 16:03 BST (UK) »
Death really does not matter. Its the birth date that counts. A person born in 1938 could very well be alive....... or dead. FindMyPast does not know that. If you can prove they have died FindMyPast will for a fee open a person. 


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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 16:12 BST (UK) »
If you can prove they have died FindMyPast will for a fee open a person.

If you have a subscription F M P will open it on production of the death certificate - no additional fee
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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 17:36 BST (UK) »


Why would the family be 'closed' in 1939 Register when the person died in 1977?

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I may have misunderstood your query.  :-\  1939 Register is a Register of individuals.   Each entry is dealt with uniquely.  The person who died in 1977 should be open for view, perhaps other members of the family are still alive, and therefore their information remains closed.

Added:  And of course, only covers those people who were already alive in 1939  :)

 
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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 20:00 BST (UK) »


Why would the family be 'closed' in 1939 Register when the person died in 1977?

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I am assuming you are referring to an individual entry rather than the whole household, but if the whole household then the reason could be multiples of all or any of the points below.
There could be a number of reasons:

The 1939 National Register was used by the NHS until 1991 and was “normally” updated on the right hand page to show the person had died. In some cases this did not happen, FindmyPast were given a list of these notifications.
Note this list is probably not exhaustive and is listed in no particular order

1) In a number of cases the list of deceased did not align with the horizontal lines of the Register this allowed some individuals to be shown as deceased when still alive and others redacted as there was no relevant mark to show they were deceased.

2) If the individual had emigrated then the NHS & the GRO were not informed of their death

3) The individual changed their name and either did not register the change of name with their doctor or the change was not recorded. This would sometimes mean their death was not recognised as the death of an individual on the register.

4) The individual joined the armed forces and was Killed in Action (as my Uncle was) such deaths were not reconciled on the 1939 National Register.

5) FindmyPast made an error when redacting entries and redacted the individual by mistake.

6) The person was missed off the register in 1939 and was recorded on the later register (this later register is not available online).

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Guy

PS Where exact matches are found FindmyPast have also been able to check the names and dates of birth in the 1939 Register against the General Register Office indexes of deaths and opened the records.

Note also some individuals may be on the 1939 National Register but be away for the family home if they were working away or evacuees
http://anguline.co.uk/Framland/index.htm   The site that gives you facts not promises!
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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 October 17 22:38 BST (UK) »


Thanks for all your replies regarding the 1939 Register.I have the husband, daughter and son-in-law living Andover, Hants, all their details are listed.  The wife is living Chichester, Sussex born 1886 died 1977 and was wondering why her details are 'closed'.
At sometime in the future they, I expect, will be opened.

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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 October 17 02:42 BST (UK) »
OK, now I'm confused

How do you know it's your person living in Chichester? A closed person shouldn't be able to be found in a search.
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE