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Welsh placenames ...
« on: Saturday 04 November 17 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help decipher the two residences for this marriage, please?
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Welsh placenames ...
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 November 17 22:28 GMT (UK) »
First one Pontygwaith
Second might be Rhymney
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Re: Welsh placenames ...
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 November 17 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks :)
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Welsh placenames ...
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 November 17 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi I don't think the second word is Rhymney there is only one y at the end none before.
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Re: Welsh placenames ...
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 November 17 20:08 GMT (UK) »
I think it’s been written as Rumney. Rhymney would make sense. I’ve found spellings to be quite varied for a lot of place names in Wales, one L instead of two at the beginning of names is quite common for example.
Anderson - Leics., Yorks.; Attwood - Worcs., Staffs.,  Salop; Baylis - Worcs.; Beach/Bache - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Bills - Devon, Worcs.<br />Dovey - Worcs., Staff., Salop; Gill - Worcs.; Hampton - Worcs., Staffs.; Hancox/Hancocks - Worcs., Staffs.<br />Hill - Worcs., Staffs., Salop; Sherwood - Worcs., Staffs.; Stonyer - Worcs., Staff., Salop, Essex<br />Woodall - Worcs., Staffs.; Potter - Essex.

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Re: Welsh placenames ...
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 November 17 20:10 GMT (UK) »
There is/was a Rumney (not the same place as Rhymney)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumney,_Cardiff
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Re: Welsh placenames ...
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 November 17 21:26 GMT (UK) »
What awful writing 🙄

Have looked at Pontygwaith on the map but can’t see anything local that looks like the second one 🤔
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 November 17 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Looks like it could be Rumney to me as well - the Rhymney near merthyr may well have been spelled the same way as the Cardiff one back in those days. Also compare with the R at the start of John Richards, father (?) of the bride

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 November 17 10:57 GMT (UK) »
I think it says Rumney as well.  But this then throws up another query.  The bride's father is described as a 'Miner'.  Now, Rumney is part of Cardiff which is not within the coal measures, so he would hardly be mining for coal from there.  But he could be a coal miner if they were living in Rhymney as there was a lot of mining activity in the Rhymney Valley, which is within the coal measures.  However, the area around Rumney has been mined for its mineral deposits in the past, namely iron, although I'm not sure whether or not this was on an industrial scale.
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