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Re: I want to decrypt this paper on the record of my father Ahmed chief
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:42 GMT (UK) »
I think the word "British" in that era meant that the person recording it believed the named person was a British Subject.  I doubt any crewman  needed to provide formal documentary 'proof' to the Master of the ship that they were a British Subject either by birth, descent, or naturalisation until perhaps the late 1940s.     

My (late) uncle was born in New South Wales, Australia of  several generations of NSW born grandparents, greats etc.  He went to sea, on US ships, retiring in the 1960s.  He married and settled in the USA and his children were all born there, some before WWII and some after.  He became a US citizen just weeks before his first born arrived. 

All his paperwork prior to US citizenship shows him as "British", except one which has 'English'.  He always said he could read and write in English, but he spoke Australian.  And, of course, being born in NSW Australia, in the 1910s, he was born "British".    Australian Citizenship commenced in 1949.   I suspect a similar post WWII timeframe for citizenship to commence in/for the other British dominions. 

The ID card uploaded on this thread has mention of 1926 and 1927 at least.   So to me, "British" would simply be indicating Chief as, at that time, a British Subject.     

I was born in NSW Australia in 1947.   So, I was born a British Subject.   That status was removed by Britain for many of us Baby Boomers during the negotiations for Britain joining the European Common Market back decades ago.   We were only entitled to re-apply IF we could prove British by descent back no further than a grandfather.    I understand similar qualifications were in operation throughout the British Commonwealth of Nations at that time.

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Re: I want to decrypt this paper on the record of my father Ahmed chief
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:44 GMT (UK) »
I haven't transcribed it all, but this should give you an idea of what it says.  As Teetotal says, it is an Identity Certificate, Argentine Immigration Regulations,  British Mercantile Marine.

Name:  Chief Ahmed
Nationality:  British  Age:  24 (?)
Name of Father:  Chief Ahmed
(Status) Single     Able to read:  No  Able to write:  No
Height: 5ft 5in
Colour of hair: Brown
(?)  Medium
Colour of eyes:  Brown   Complexion: Sallow

Left hand side of sheet:

Department of Maritime & Fisheries, Canada
of Sydney, N.S.
Country:  Canada

? of discharge book:  6.7.26.
Reg No 6694
Date ?  26 Dec 1927
Signature of Captain:  J Walters
Ship's stamp:  B B TWYFORD, LONDON
Signature of Seaman:  Chief Ahmed



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Re: I want to decrypt this paper on the record of my father Ahmed chief
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:45 GMT (UK) »


Name:  Chief Ahmed
Nationality:  British  Age:  24 (?)
Name of Father:  Chief Ahmed
(Status) Single     Able to read:  No  Able to write:  No
Height: 5ft 5in
Colour of hair: Brown
Build  Medium
Colour of eyes:  Brown   Complexion: Sallow




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Re: I want to decrypt this paper on the record of my father Ahmed chief
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 21:46 GMT (UK) »
The writing at the top of the left hand page states Chief has a scar on his forehead.

Also, I believe the 'Medium' relates to 'Naria' or 'Nose', both words being clearly visible at the beginning of the relevant line.   

PB

Added: link about the colonial history of Aden. I believe majm is correct in that Chief would be considered a British Subject if born in Aden but would not be a British Citizen.

http://britishempire.co.uk/maproom/aden.htm


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Re: I want to decrypt this paper on the record of my father Ahmed chief
« Reply #13 on: Friday 02 August 19 16:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks for searching

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Re: I want to decrypt this paper on the record of my father Ahmed chief
« Reply #14 on: Friday 02 August 19 17:10 BST (UK) »
The word in front of “Medium” is Nariz - Spanish for nose. So he had a medium nose!
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Re: I want to decrypt this paper on the record of my father Ahmed chief
« Reply #15 on: Friday 02 August 19 18:42 BST (UK) »
I think we have seen some of these documents before. I do’t know how to link this post with the previous 2017 post.

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Re: I want to decrypt this paper on the record of my father Ahmed chief
« Reply #16 on: Friday 02 August 19 18:54 BST (UK) »
I think we have seen some of these documents before. I do’t know how to link this post with the previous 2017 post.

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I searched the archives and found the cards of interest to my father
I want to decrypt these cards
Can you link my topic to the previous topics and apologize for that

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