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Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« on: Friday 08 December 17 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Warrant Officer Class II
JOHN ALFRED MARTIN #1054535,
115 Field Regt., Royal Artillery who died age 38 on Monday 14 October 1940
John met his death on the 14th October 1940 aged 38 years at Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey.
He was the Son of Edwin and Emily Jane Martin of Kingston Bagpuize and husband of Margaret Alice Martin, of Peckham, London.

I cannot find anything else about him, such as what he was flying or how he was killed. Tried the kenthistoryforum, but not received a response at all and tried newspapers.  Can any one here help please?
I have some detail of him here: http://kingston-bagpuize.com/war/martin.html

WALES: Bevan, David, Thomas in area of Ystradyfodwg [Rhondda] Llangeinor and Bettws [Glam] Glamorgan Farms of interest: Graigddu, Gwaunadda, Llwynypia, Maesllan, Penygraig and Cwmsaerbren | RAYMOND, St Davids Pembrokeshire; OWEN St Davids Pembrokeshire; JONES Upper Neath Valley;
ENGLAND: Somerset, Yatton, Kenn, Portishead, Weston-i-Gardano, Clevedon & Bristol. Names: Nethway, Perris, Knight, Gosling, Payne.

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Re: Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 December 17 15:21 GMT (UK) »
Death certificate for cause of death?
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Re: Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 December 17 15:43 GMT (UK) »
I see no mention of an air accident in the CWGC detail or in the link you posted.  Warren Point Isle of Sheppey is also rather elusive? 

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 December 17 16:09 GMT (UK) »
What evidence is there that it was a flying accident when he was in the Royal Artillery.
Are you sure it's not Warden Point Isle of Sheppey ?
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Re: Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 December 17 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Death certificate for cause of death?
Looks like:
Deaths Dec 1940   
Martin    John A    38    Sheppey    2a   3375   

Can find nothing in newspaper archive on findmypast.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
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Re: Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 December 17 17:36 GMT (UK) »
His service record will be held by the MOD; it might give details on his death.
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Re: Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 December 17 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Well eh! no to a death certificate as I have loads of other men and women to research for our village war dead. I was told that he was killed at Warden [ yes sorry typo -- oops have even got Warren in website!!  :-[   :(  ] Point, Isle of Sheppey by one person who should have known.

Thanks Milliepede for the death, even so. Thanks also Josey and Nanny Jan

What a great reaction though - this list is great for responses.

I'll alter facts to what I do know and can prove!
WALES: Bevan, David, Thomas in area of Ystradyfodwg [Rhondda] Llangeinor and Bettws [Glam] Glamorgan Farms of interest: Graigddu, Gwaunadda, Llwynypia, Maesllan, Penygraig and Cwmsaerbren | RAYMOND, St Davids Pembrokeshire; OWEN St Davids Pembrokeshire; JONES Upper Neath Valley;
ENGLAND: Somerset, Yatton, Kenn, Portishead, Weston-i-Gardano, Clevedon & Bristol. Names: Nethway, Perris, Knight, Gosling, Payne.

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Re: Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 December 17 17:51 GMT (UK) »
 You would think that somewhere his death detail is shown.  He was twice mentioned in Despatches.
 ???
WALES: Bevan, David, Thomas in area of Ystradyfodwg [Rhondda] Llangeinor and Bettws [Glam] Glamorgan Farms of interest: Graigddu, Gwaunadda, Llwynypia, Maesllan, Penygraig and Cwmsaerbren | RAYMOND, St Davids Pembrokeshire; OWEN St Davids Pembrokeshire; JONES Upper Neath Valley;
ENGLAND: Somerset, Yatton, Kenn, Portishead, Weston-i-Gardano, Clevedon & Bristol. Names: Nethway, Perris, Knight, Gosling, Payne.

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Re: Air accident Warren Point, Isle of Sheppey, Kent October 1940
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 December 17 19:45 GMT (UK) »
His RA Casualty Card has a box for cause of death - empty!  His entry in the RA Attestation book has cause of death (attached) but what the word in brackets is ?

His local newspaper, if published, rather than a Kent newspaper, would be one to seek out.  His residence is given as Wantage on the card.

There is only one MID (Dec 40 published for Mar-Jun 40)  to his name in the RA Honours and Awards and the Gazette. 
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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