Thomas Ronayne, where is he between 1861 and time in workhouse, 1900s?

[lasswade]

Dear helpers,

I cannot trace this man (b. 1837 in Westminster) after the 1861 census, until his years in London's workhouses about 40 years later, where he died in 1912.

His wife Sophia and children are found with George Aldridge after 1861.

I will be grateful for any help or ideas...

Thanks, Bea.

[solidrock]

There is a Thomas Romaine, b 1837, Westminster, living in Stoke Newington 1901. He is the cousin of Chas Nethercott.

[lasswade]

Thanks for the reply,

I don't think this is the Thomas I'm after. Thomas Romaine, whom you showed me, certainly fits, however the cousin Nethercott does not fit anywhere, have checked both Charles and spouse Annie without luck.

I found one Thomas Ronayne in Lambeth workhouse, admitted and discharged many times in 1901, yet not showing in the 1901 census as being there.

Further workhouse records answer part of my original query, as Thomas was admitted consistently from at least 1885. Now he is absent from records between 1861 and 1885, or at least, I cannot find him.

Thanks again,

Bea. 

[solidrock]

Thomas Ronayne. 62, Brackenbury Road, Hammersmith.  1893.

Thomas Ronayne. 79, Bedford Road, Clapham.   1901.

Added.
I would take the word cousin with a pinch of salt.

[maddys52]

I'm only looking at the transcriptions on familysearch - Sophia and children appear in 1871 at St John the Evangelist, London. She is described as "wife" as relation to head of household. Is Thomas on the previous page?
Sophia Ronayne    29    St Margarets, Middlesex
John Ronayne        10    
Ann Ronayne          5    
William Ronayne    2    
Caroline Ronayne    0    

GBC/1871/0123/0162

[maddys52]

I'm sure you've worked it all out  , but have you found the birth registrations of all the children? (To help determine when Thomas may have left the picture)

I can see (with mother's maiden name CARLEY)

John Thomas RONAYNE in 1861
Joseph RONAYNE in 1862
Sophia Eliza Ann RONAYNE in 1864
William Richard RONAYNE  in 1868

James ALDRIDGE in 1879

but I can't find Caroline (c 1871), Rose (c 1873), or George (c 1875) who all appear as ALDRIDGE on the 1881 census.

[josey]

but I can't find Caroline (c 1871), Rose (c 1873), or George (c 1875) who all appear as ALDRIDGE on the 1881 census.

Could this be George?
ALDRIDGE, GEORGE       RONAYNE     
GRO Reference: 1874  D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 358

[cuffie81]

This might be the Thomas who was in and out of the Lambeth workhouse. Also, this could just be a coincidence but his details roughly match those of the Thomas with the Nethercotts in 1901.

1871 census
Garden Row, St George, St Saviour Southwark
Thomas Ronayne; born c1839 Westminster
Plus wife Mary A and various children.

Ref RG10; Piece 606; Folio 64; Page 23;

The eldest child, Mary A B Ronayne born c1852, looks too old to be Thomas' child given the age difference so wife Mary may have been married before.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRFQ-5LH


1881 census
Brook Street, Lambeth
Thomas Romayne?; born c1838 Westminster; painter
Plus wife Mary A, various children and granddaughter Mabel.

Ref RG11; Piece 593; Folio 34; Page 29;

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Q-NXLL


I haven't had much luck finding the children's birth registrations other than a possible one for William and another possible child, Alice (who doesn't appear on any census with Thomas and Mary). I couldn't find Mabel's either.

GRO birth registrations:
1869 Q4 Birth - William Thomas Roynane (mmn: Hale); Lambeth; 01d; 333
1873 Q1 Birth - Alice Roynane (mmn: Hale); Lambeth; 01d; 399

I can't find a marriage for Thomas and Mary.


1911 census
Possible match for Thomas?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW5M-KCP

[lasswade]

thanks everyone,

I'm staring to work through all the info, but briefly, for now, was the Lambeth workhouse a regular poorhouse or an asylum?

Bea