Thomas Carmichael b1831 - Military Hospital , Vauxhall Road, London

[Keckers]

Trying to trace the death of my great great grandfather Thomas Carmichael born 15 May 1831 at New Kilpatrick, Scotland. Thomas had served in the Fusilier Guards, Windsor from July 1849 to August 1852, Army Number 3881. He was involved in the Crimean War 1855/56 and in the American Civil War with the US (2nd) Cavalry, Maryland. Last known contact was in May 1866 in the Scots Fusiliers, then on 25 July 1869 as a patient in the Military Hospital, Vauxhall Road, London.

[Brentor boy]

If his parents were  Hugh and Marion, according to Family Search he was born on  15 April, baptised 15 May 1831.

[philipsearching]

No answers yet, just a couple of questions:

What was Thomas's wife's name? Have you found her on a census after 1869?  If she was described as a widow, this could help narrow down a date of death.

[MaxD]

If the Thomas Carmichael is the one discharged from the Scots Fusilier Guards effective 12 Oct 1869 having served since 1857 with a 6 years desertion 1860-1866 and wounded while fighting in the American Civil War, then his intended place of residence on discharge was given as Alexandria (presumably Dunbartonshire rather than Egypt) which may give a steer as to where to look.

MaxD

[Keckers]

No answers yet, just a couple of questions:

What was Thomas's wife's name? Have you found her on a census after 1869?  If she was described as a widow, this could help narrow down a date of death.

In the 1871 Census his wife , Eliza Carmichael is recorded as Married, Head  age 40, residing in Bonhill, Alexandria, along with her children John (16) Janet (13) and Thomas (4)

Family research carried out a good few years back placed him in the Military Hospital at Vauxhall Road on 25 July 1869...but we know nothing of him after then. Thanks.

[MaxD]

Speculation - his military record was decidedly flaky, having been discharged perhaps he just didn't go back to Alexandria, the thought may have occurred to you!

MaxD

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1881 Census Bonhill Dunbarton(Free LDS transcription on Scotlandspeople)
Eliza Carmichael 52 widow b. Langside Renfrew
Thomas Carmichael 13 son born Alexandria Dunbarton



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[Keckers]

If the Thomas Carmichael is the one discharged from the Scots Fusilier Guards effective 12 Oct 1869 having served since 1857 with a 6 years desertion 1860-1866 and wounded while fighting in the American Civil War, then his intended place of residence on discharge was given as Alexandria (presumably Dunbartonshire rather than Egypt) which may give a steer as to where to look.

MaxD

Thomas left a notebook, desertion sounds right, ha ha. Dateline lists

7/9/1857 - 30/6/1860 - Scots Fusiliers
1/7/1860 - 1/2/1861 - Rectifying Rum & Whisky - Scholes Houldsworth, Pennsylvania
2/2/1861 - 9/5/1861 - Groom - Mr HendriMaryhillckinson, New Jersey
16/5/1861 - 1/2/1863 - Groom - Trenton, N.J Virginia
- /2/1863 - -/5/1864 - U.S (2nd) Cavalry, Maryland, discharged wounded
-/5/1864 -/9/1864 - Groom, Dr Whiteside Haddington, USA
-/10/1854 - -/5/1865 - Maryhill Police and Dunbartonshire Constabulary
-/5/1865 - -/4/1866 - Turkey Red Factory
-/5/1866 -               - Scots Fusiliers
25/7/1869               - Patient in the Military Hospital, Vauxhall Road, London...then NOTHING!

[Keckers]

Speculation - his military record was decidedly flaky, having been discharged perhaps he just didn't go back to Alexandria, the thought may have occurred to you!

MaxD

Looks a bit like it