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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 12 January 18 18:20 GMT (UK) »
The 1879 marriage Cathy mentioned is online on Anc (added - Thomas Mark Cross age 23 Waiter -father Thomas Mark Cross -Engine Driver to Mary Ann Sheppherd age 23 - father Joseph Sheppherd - Cabinet Maker)

I wonder if this is the couple in 1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q273-MKMQ

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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 12 January 18 18:30 GMT (UK) »
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWGG-8FH shows 1911 for a Mary Ann Westwood aged 56 born St Lukes widow with a son William 28.

On that census there is also an Emily Westwood, it would appear that her birth record (Holborn 1879) has MMN as Sheppard.

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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 12 January 18 18:31 GMT (UK) »
1907 marriage gives his age as 24

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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 12 January 18 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Clerkenwell St Paul islington
Born 23/7/1885 bapt 23/8/1885

Albert Henry Cross parents Thomas Mark and Mary Ann Cross provast Street occ. Carman

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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 12 January 18 19:04 GMT (UK) »
On 7 July 1912 Mary Ann Westwood (age 52) remarries a William Stephen Duck (51) at Hoxton.   Her father is listed as Joseph Sheppard - Cabinet Maker (matching the father listed in the 1879 marriage to Thomas Mark Cross)

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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 12 January 18 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Apologies - I've come home from work, had my tea, checked back.

WOW!

Lots of stuff to catch up on, looking very good (and confusing).

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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 12 January 18 19:16 GMT (UK) »
It seems to all be coming together in the end!

I am wondering in Mr Westwood was a Henry, and that is where the "father called Henry" came from on Alberts marriage cert.  If Thomas Mark Cross (his actual father) wasn't around, he at have known Mr W as his father figure.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 12 January 18 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Clerkenwell St Paul islington
Born 23/7/1885 bapt 23/8/1885

Albert Henry Cross parents Thomas Mark and Mary Ann Cross pro art Street occ. Carman



Guess that is Provost Street

1887 Electoral Roll for 25 Provost Street Hoxton - Thomas Mary Cross
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Origins of Albert Henry Cross 1886-1952?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 12 January 18 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The 1879 marriage Cathy mentioned is online on Anc (added - Thomas Mark Cross age 23 Waiter -father Thomas Mark Cross -Engine Driver to Mary Ann Sheppherd age 23 - father Joseph Sheppherd - Cabinet Maker)

I wonder if this is the couple in 1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q273-MKMQ

I wonder if he knocked a  couple of years off his age & was actually 25 at marriage?

Birth from FreeBMD:

Cross, Thomas Mark; Dec Qtr 1855; Poplar: Vol 1c Page 575

also another son?:

Birth

Cross, Thomas Mark; Dec Qtr 1879; Holborn: Vol 1b Page 813

And Death:

Cross, Thomas Mark; March Qtr 1880; Age 0; Holborn: Vol 1b Page 578

Hope this helps.

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