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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 January 18 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Yes Gadget, and it's the same address  ;D
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I said yesterday that I couldn't understand how people see the father's chin in a baby, and likewise I am useless at guessing a child's age !

I thought folk would date using the dresses. Stupidly, I didn't think it would be help to list the birthdates - sorry about that.

Winifred born Q3 1898, BURIED Nov 1906
Gladys 21 July 1903
Dorothy 2 Sep 1905
Lily Q2 1907


 
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 January 18 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Carol's good at estimating children's ages.  I'd say they look about 5 and 6 or 7. 

Is there anything at all on the back of the photo?


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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 January 18 22:58 GMT (UK) »
I think they look to be about 6 & 7
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 January 18 08:27 GMT (UK) »
This is the back of the photo. No clues there?

From comments so far, I assume we can say Winifred (died 1906) is not in the picture.

Can we rule out that itís Gladys and Lilian together, because of the four year age difference between them?

If Iíve worked this out correctly (please say if Iím wrong!)

1910 = Dorothy aged 5, Gladys aged 7
1911 = Dorothy 6, Gladys 8
1912 = Lilian 5, Dorothy 7
1913 = Lilian 6, Dorothy 8

Are those daffodils in the tub in the bottom right corner? No one is particularly wrapped up, although the sun is weak (no shadows) so is this late Spring?
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 27 January 18 08:33 GMT (UK) »
There is a clue to the back you know - the division down the centre didn't start until 1904, in UK, and  the place for the stamp was later I think, but can't remember when.

Carol will know!

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
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Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 27 January 18 08:41 GMT (UK) »
Wiggy - well I never, I'm learning with every topic! Is that "M16" or "M46" in the stamp box, if that's another clue?
Berks - Appleton Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Wernham
South Bucks - Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall - John Henry Grigg born c 1839 where?
Hants - Hine/Hind
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Suffolk - Philpott Stone
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 27 January 18 09:04 GMT (UK) »
There is a clue to the back you know - the division down the centre didn't start until 1904, in UK, and  the place for the stamp was later I think, but can't remember when.

Carol will know!

Wiggy.



The divided back postcard was introduced in the UK in 1902 Wiggy.
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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 27 January 18 09:10 GMT (UK) »
I'm learning too!!   ;D  ;D

The site I looked up said 1904 so I just quoted -  it said 1907 in US so I presumed 1904 was UK - sorry.    :-[.

But what about stamp boxes, Carol?   :).   I tried to find that out too but couldn't get the required of!    ;)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriess,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Date please for photo - Elizabeth Barlow (1867-1938) & her girls, Newbury, Berks
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 27 January 18 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth would be 40 in 1907 and I think she might be around that age.

It's very difficult with the girls fairly evenly space. I know that shoes were being introduced rather than boots by the late noughties.
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