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Offline Lambendsor (aka IGS)

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Translation help needed, Germany 1944
« on: Thursday 25 January 18 14:38 GMT (UK) »
I get the gist of this document, but wonder if I could get a more precise/nuanced translation. Thanks!
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford

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Re: Translation help needed, Germany 1944
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 January 18 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Sergeant-Major Henry Albert Scherpe, book-keeper, Protestant, last address 98 Gosslerstrasse in Wandsbek, Hamburg, was killed in action at Gontowaja-Lipka (eastern front) on 29 July 1943.

The deceased was born in London on 14 October 1912 (registration district St Mary).
Father: Charles George Adalbert Scherpe, address unknown.
Mother: Emma Helen Scherpe née Sullbrandt, living in Wandsbek.
The deceased was unmarried.

Entry based on a written report from the Wehrmacht information post for war dead and PoWs in Berlin, 9 March 1941.    [signed] Registrar

Cause of death: killed in action.
Bagwell of Kilmore & Lisronagh, Co. Tipperary;  Beatty from Enniskillen;  Brown from Preston, Lancs.;  Burke of Ballydugan, Co. Galway;  Casement in the IoM and Co. Antrim;  Davison of Knockboy, Broughshane;  Frobisher;  Guillemard;  Harrison in Co. Antrim and Dublin;  Jones around Burton Pedwardine, Lincs.;  Lindesay of Loughry;  Newcomen of Camlagh, Co. Roscommon;  Shield;  Watson from Kidderminster;  Wilkinson from Leeds

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Re: Translation help needed, Germany 1944
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 January 18 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Much obliged, wee Hugh!
ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HOLMES: Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow/Knutsford
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GREY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAWE, FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford

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Re: Translation help needed, Germany 1944
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 January 18 18:10 GMT (UK) »
No doubt you found his birth in St Marylebone in the last quarter of 1914.  I transcribed that year incorrectly: sorry!

Wandsbek is an eastern suburb of Berlin.  When a German address has two places separated by a hyphen, the second is usually a subdivision of the first: it can be, for example, a village in the same parish.  I don't know about the place of death, evidently not in Germany.

I assume he did not have British nationality, for then one would expect him to be interned on the outbreak of war.  Perhaps he returned to the land of his ancestors expressly to fight for his hero Hitler.  However, there must have been many with divided loyalties.

Bagwell of Kilmore & Lisronagh, Co. Tipperary;  Beatty from Enniskillen;  Brown from Preston, Lancs.;  Burke of Ballydugan, Co. Galway;  Casement in the IoM and Co. Antrim;  Davison of Knockboy, Broughshane;  Frobisher;  Guillemard;  Harrison in Co. Antrim and Dublin;  Jones around Burton Pedwardine, Lincs.;  Lindesay of Loughry;  Newcomen of Camlagh, Co. Roscommon;  Shield;  Watson from Kidderminster;  Wilkinson from Leeds

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Re: Translation help needed, Germany 1944
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 January 18 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to disagree but Wandsbek is place east of Hamburg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandsbek_(quarter)


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Re: Translation help needed, Germany 1944
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 January 18 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Dave, you read it on the internet so it must be true.

However, I have a German atlas and Wandsbek is clearly within the urban agglomeration of Hamburg.  Possibly it was a separate community in 1944, though the designation Hamburg-Wandsbek implies it was not.
Bagwell of Kilmore & Lisronagh, Co. Tipperary;  Beatty from Enniskillen;  Brown from Preston, Lancs.;  Burke of Ballydugan, Co. Galway;  Casement in the IoM and Co. Antrim;  Davison of Knockboy, Broughshane;  Frobisher;  Guillemard;  Harrison in Co. Antrim and Dublin;  Jones around Burton Pedwardine, Lincs.;  Lindesay of Loughry;  Newcomen of Camlagh, Co. Roscommon;  Shield;  Watson from Kidderminster;  Wilkinson from Leeds

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Re: Translation help needed, Germany 1944
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 January 18 19:55 GMT (UK) »
In your Post you said Wandsbek was near Berlin  ;)