Ok folks going back to basics
We know by the 1841 census there is a john carr and a Janet Carr address Petrodie Village
John age 32 born Perthshire DOB 1809
Janet 30 born Perthshire DOB 1811
Jean 14 DOB 1827
James 6 DOB 1835
John 3. DOB 1838
The Alexander is not born yet
Onto 1851 census
Janet is head age 43 DOB around 1808
No mention of john but same info on find my past website suggests she is a widow
Same address as previous census - Pitrodie village
We now have a son Andrew mentioned
Janet 43 (mother)
Andrew age 25 making DOB 1826 so minus the 10 years in census time was Andrew already out working in last records then moved home
Jean is not mentioned but again with a similar age to Andrew by 1851 she may well be out of household as she is 24
James is 15 - this adds up to last census
John is 13 - this adds up to last census
Charles Carr is 8 making him a new edition as far as census goes making DOB 1843
Alexander Carr is 6 making him another new edition with DOB around 1845
A lodger names charles (chas) Keir is mentioned with age of 22
So what happened to john as his last son is born around 1845 and he is not on the census in 1851
Alexander’s DOB ties in with death cert I have for him death in 1920 he is 78
Making DOB 1842/1843 I cant find birth certificate for him
But is the death the right one as it mentions his widow Betsy chalmers
Parents are john carr - ploughman deceased and mother Margaret Carr m/s grannon
This is the mystery did john Carr the father leave Janet and marry again this lady Margaret?
Because I have a marriage certificate in 1870 for Alexander aged 27 making birth around 1843 and betsy chalmers 22 who is also mentioned in Alexander’s death certificate
Alexander’s parents are at this time john carr deceased and mother Jessie Ferguson. Previously Carr M/s RObb , does this indicate that sometime after Alexander’s birth his mother Janet married another man with name Ferguson
So john the father either died or married another woman called Margaret?
Also need to find the Ferguson family Janet joined ?