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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi
It turns out Horace was baptized at Ninfield, 27 Dec 1840
Parents Walter Benee and Rebekah Waters
abode Ashburnham (but it says Mountfield under her name)
Some other notes (image here)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTZ3-S35?i=191&cat=217349

Licence applied at Lewes,3rd April,1817 William Waters,Bach 37 plus from Mountfield

Susannah head,SP, 22 plus,Burwash

They married at Burwash 4th April

The licence may have been part paid for by the Burwash Overseers?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRJS-6V9?cat=215229

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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Do you think Rebecca waters ??

Was born to William waters and Susannah head before they were married ??

Regards Phil

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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi
It's such a tight timetable from that  warrant, 1 April 1817, to the mariage by licence, 4 April 1817.
The child could have been born in those few days, but in the circumstances they may have had to delay the wedding a little bit? Although there must have been some pressure from the Burwash overseers.

Personally I think that Morris baptism might be a possibility!
It seems to be a complete one off for those parents, at least in Mountfield. There is a transcription error on FamilySearch with the mother's name, it is definitely Susanna, but it does say Morris. Other than that surname everything else fits.
There were certainly lots of Waters in Mountfield, so if it was a mistake I don't know how it could have happened.
John

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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 21 February 18 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Why was a warrant issued for William waters raised ??

Regards Phil

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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #22 on: Monday 26 February 18 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find parents of Mary waters b about 1807

She married john tolhurst
They had two children

Eliza 1840

Emily 1856

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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 08:17 GMT (UK) »
They had more children than that Phil and Emily was born 1844, age 6 in 1851 Census.

1841 Census
John Sothurst   25
Mary Sothurst   35
Lucy Sothurst   9
Amos Sothurst   7
Mary Sothurst   3
Eliza Sothurst   1

1851 Census
John Tolhurst   37
Mary Tolhurst   44 born Sternfield, Sussex
Eliza Tolhurst   11
Emily Tolhurst   6

I cant find a marriage for John to Mary Waters?

Birth Regs GRO Index;

TOLHURST, EMMA, Mothers mn WATTS****
GRO Reference: 1838  J Quarter in TICEHURST UNION  Volume 07  Page 439

TOLHURST,  -  (unnamed female) Mothers mn WATTS ******
GRO Reference: 1844  S Quarter in TICEHURST UNION  Volume 07  Page 464

So I am a bit confused here.

Trish :)
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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 08:56 GMT (UK) »
I am also a bit confused with Trees have Emily Elizabeth, with Parents John/Mary Tolhurst arriving in Australia 1858 age 13 ( the record does exist for that arrival)
She arrived with Jesse 36/Etty E 33/William 16)

If the one I listed on 1851 Census is still in Sussex in 1861 how could she have immigrated 1858 and married in Australia 1862?

1861 Census
John Tolhurst 47
Charlotte Tolhurst 48
Emily Tolhurst 16 born Lamberhurst
Possible Marriage reg 1852 to a Charlotte Driver.




So which Tolhurst family are you interested in Phil?
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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 09:09 GMT (UK) »
I am going to post as someone related my find this in the future;

TOLHURST, WILLIAM, Mothers mn PETTIT
GRO Reference: 1842  J Quarter in TENTERDEN UNION  Volume 05  Page 415

This family is in Kenardington, Kent in 1851;
Jesse Tolhurst   29
Elizabeth Tolhurst 26
William Tolhurst   9
Emily Tolhurst   5
All born Kenardington except Elizabeth

Marriage Reg March 1842, Elizabeth Pettit to Jesse Tolhurst
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Re: rebecca waters
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish

Family history gets very interesting the further you dig down

I am hoping I will find a Mary tolhurst death about 1851 to 1852
As john seems to have married a charlotte driver 1852

It's possible however that there was never a marriage of john to Mary waters

Mary is a likely relative of my wife's family ( the waters )

Thanks for any help

Regards Phil