Author Topic: Ship's name and port  (Read 1974 times)

Offline davidgp

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 153
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Ship's name and port
« on: Wednesday 14 March 18 23:14 GMT (UK) »
This is a seaman's entry from a crew list - I need to know the previous ship he served on. It's the second line and should be a ship's name followed by a port of registration. I've include one line above as a small sample of the handwriting. Sadly there are no more examples in the list.

I've tried some obvious guesses against the online register of shipping but have got nowhere. The scan is as good as it gets from this source. Any suggestions please?
David

Offline Treetotal

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 28,450
    • View Profile
Re: Ship's name and port
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 23:32 GMT (UK) »
I see Binz....Condor, Ecuador?
Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
RESTORERS:PLEASE DO NOT USE MY RESTORES WITHOUT PRIOR PERMISSION - THANK YOU

Offline davidgp

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 153
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ship's name and port
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 23:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carol
Yes, that's what I read - Binz would be Binz on Rügen, Germany which makes sense - Condor registered in Ecuador I can't find - lots of ships called Condor but none registered in 1880 in Ecuador. Still think you're right!

David

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 58,732
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: Ship's name and port
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 23:46 GMT (UK) »
No luck - SS Condor ........... earliest one I found was 1893 (captured and sunk by Germany 1914)  ::)

Sandra
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada


Offline davidgp

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 153
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ship's name and port
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 23:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra

The 1880 Mercantile List (page 224) has the following registered

Condor, Falmouth
Condor, Greenock
Condor, Halifax NS
Condor, London
Condor, Pictou NS
Condor, Portsmouth
Condor, St John NB
Condor, St John NFL
Condor, Yarmouth

 - can't tie any to Ecuador
David

Offline Karen McDonald

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,474
  • ** THINK POSITIVE! **
    • View Profile
Re: Ship's name and port
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 March 18 08:38 GMT (UK) »
I'm not 100% convinced about Condor.

The "n" is not like the one in Binz - there's something after it. 

To begin with, I thought it might be an "m", making the name Camdor, but now I think it looks more like "ne".
Also, when you look at the "or" on the end of Ecuador (which looks like it has an "x" in the middle, but what the heck...  ???), the "o" is joined differently.
I think the second letter of the ship's name could be an "a".

This would result in something like Canedor.
The place name "Canedo" exists in Portugal and Switzerland (but without the "r" on the end...).

I don't know where to start looking for ships' names - Auntie Goggle couldn't help me on this one...
Where do you good people find info on ships?  :)

Karen
 
McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd

Offline Bookbox

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,918
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ship's name and port
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 March 18 08:46 GMT (UK) »
I don't know where to start looking for ships' names
Try the CLIP databases ...

http://www.crewlist.org.uk

Offline Karen McDonald

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,474
  • ** THINK POSITIVE! **
    • View Profile
Re: Ship's name and port
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 March 18 08:48 GMT (UK) »
I don't know where to start looking for ships' names
Try the CLIP databases ...

http://www.crewlist.org.uk

That looks like a very interesting website, ta very much!
I'll have a play on there later.  :)

Karen
McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd

Offline davidgp

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 153
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Ship's name and port
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 15 March 18 08:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen

Thanks for your thoughts - as I post Bookbox has answered where to find ship names. I've been checking all my guesses at:
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/#Data

Sadly Canedo is not a recognised name in that database.

I've just tried finding ships registered in Ecuador to try the search from the other direction but no joy there either.
David