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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 17 March 18 18:47 GMT (UK) »
There must be a case between the discharge date of 1879 and the census of 1881. Also he becomes a coal miner.

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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 March 18 18:49 GMT (UK) »
If I am reading this thread correctly (please reprimand me if I'm wrong) Enos was born Hopkins, not Jones? http://www.forest-of-dean.net/fodmembers/index.php?mode=thread&id=19987

So, clutching at straws, is there any remote chance that he might appear as Enos Hopkins in any newspaper reports?
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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 17 March 18 18:59 GMT (UK) »
It seems he was in Gloucester until at least the 1871 census - then his sister died and then his father. I'm guessing that there was no longer anything to keep him in the area and he went up North as the mines were crying out for workers. He does seem to revert to Jones as he gets older, using Hopkins in his younger days (perhaps to hide some involvement in crime). It's all just guesswork at the moment.

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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 17 March 18 19:12 GMT (UK) »
It could be that Enos was still in Gloucestershire in 1880 as there is a newspaper article where an Enos Hopkins and William Hopkins of Ruarden Hill assaulted a Noah Jones. Enos and William were fined 20s or 14 days hard labour.

Unless the above Enos was the father  ???

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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 March 18 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks. I thought he came up to Durham much earlier. They seem a fiesty bunch, the Hopkins' family, with their clan also being involved in the Ruardean Bear scandal.

His father was also an Enos Jones.


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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 March 18 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Article in the Durham County Advertiser  25 Feb 1881 Page 3 states he was sentenced to 3 months imprisonment and the reason for sentence.

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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 17 March 18 21:34 GMT (UK) »
Good find, William  :)

I remember as a postgrad walking past that prison when it was high security.
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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 17 March 18 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Article in the Durham County Advertiser  25 Feb 1881 Page 3 states he was sentenced to 3 months imprisonment and the reason for sentence.

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Thank you so much! Sounds like they should've locked him away for longer! Mystery finally solved.

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Re: Durham Prison, 1881 - how do I find out what my relative did?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 18 March 18 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Good find, William  :)

Seconded  :) I completely missed that one.
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