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Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« on: Friday 30 March 18 04:31 BST (UK) »
Hi:    I have been helping someone else with a challenging search for Soloman Parritz, his dressmaker wife Eva (b c1867), and their children Harry (b c1897) and Ruben (b c1899).  Wife and children were all born Vilna, Lithuania (Russia).

The family had arrived in London by November 1900 when there is a record to show Soloman, then living at 21 High Street Dwellings (no district), registered his eldest son for schooling, but I cannot find them on the 1901 census.  Eva and the children do appear in the 1911 census of St George In The East, before departing (without husband) for Boston in the USA later the same year.  Family lore suggests the husband went to the USA first, but never corresponded with the family after that.

It would help to have another pair of eyes more familiar with London records to initially find the family in 1901 (possibly under a variation of their unusual surname) and to also fill in any gaps between 1900 and 1911.

Any takers?
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Re: Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 March 18 07:58 BST (UK) »
Roy

The 1911 shipping suggests the first PARRITZ name which I cannot read is a widow!

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 March 18 08:05 BST (UK) »
Roy

The 1911 shipping suggests the first PARRITZ name which I cannot read is a widow!

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Transcription says "Eva" with Harry (11) and Rubin (10)
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Re: Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 March 18 08:31 BST (UK) »
Could I suggest the address could be '21 The Highway, St Katherine's & Wapping'...  An 8 minute walk from the school.  It seems the School was in Shadwell.

I'm not sure how to check the 1901 for 21 High St, Shadwell or Wapping.

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England


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Re: Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 March 18 09:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks.  The widow issue is known.  The wife had not heard from her husband at all, so she felt assuming the guise of a widow the best thing to do.

Thanks for following up on the school. It was a piece  of info that my contact either knew and was reticent to divulge, or never knew in the first place.  As you say, it may help find the family in 1901.

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Re: Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 March 18 10:01 BST (UK) »
The former Lower Chapman Street School:

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/architecture/robson/4.html

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 March 18 10:30 BST (UK) »
High Street Dwellings are Shadwell (not Wapping), and they come under Stepney registration district (not St George in the East), though not far away.

1901 census ref for 21 High Street Dwellings is RG13/316 folio 73 page 10, but they are not there.

You might want to search the district manually, in case they were nearby and misindexed. But it was not uncommon for recent immigrants to miss or avoid the census.

ADDED - now possibly found at 230 Shadwell High Street - RG13/316 folio 88 page 12.
Ancestry has this family under PERSTY. FindMyPast has PERETY.

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Re: Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 March 18 11:04 BST (UK) »
ADDED - now possibly found at 230 Shadwell High Street - RG13/316 folio 88 page 12.
Ancestry has this family under PERSTY. FindMyPast has PERETY.

Well found Bookbox, I searched for them for ages earlier today  ;D

I would agree that this is the correct family.

Carol
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Re: Parritz: Another pair of eyes.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 March 18 11:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the 1901 lead. 
I'm using familysearch.org (not having a subscription to FindMyPast or A)
Do either of those entries give clues as to how the first names are spelled or other info so that I can find them on familysearch?

regards Roy G