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Re: Need help reading Elizabeth Madell settlement order
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 April 18 19:05 BST (UK) »
When she says "passed from" does this refer to another settlement order?

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Re: Need help reading Elizabeth Madell settlement order
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 April 18 19:05 BST (UK) »
What does it mean "he was never a housekeeper"?

I would imagine it means that he was never living somewhere rent free in exchange for housekeeping duties.
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Re: Need help reading Elizabeth Madell settlement order
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 April 18 19:06 BST (UK) »
When she says "passed from" does this refer to another settlement order?

No idea - but I would guess that she was under some sort of parish relief from St Stephens in Coleman Street, and passed from there to Hackney.  But it is only a guess!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Need help reading Elizabeth Madell settlement order
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 April 18 19:13 BST (UK) »
The last part reads ...

... & remained there 6 or 7 weeks
and has been rel(iev)ed since.
     F(riendly) O(rder) to Hackney


It was agreed 27 years earlier (when the family were removed from St Stephen Coleman Street) that they were chargeable to Hackney. So they are being removed again now to Hackney, under a ‘Friendly Order’, so that Hackney can take financial responsibility for them.

A ‘friendly order’ was an informal removal order agreed between two unions, avoiding the cost and delay of applying to a magistrate for a formal order.



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Re: Need help reading Elizabeth Madell settlement order
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 12 April 18 19:17 BST (UK) »
What does it mean "he was never a housekeeper"?

I would imagine it means that he was never living somewhere rent free in exchange for housekeeping duties.

It means that he never paid rates in Shoreditch. If he had done so, it might have given him settlement rights there.

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Re: Need help reading Elizabeth Madell settlement order
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 12 April 18 19:19 BST (UK) »


Thank you Bookbox for clearing up that abbreviation, first time I have seen it.
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Re: Need help reading Elizabeth Madell settlement order
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 12 April 18 19:21 BST (UK) »
When she says "passed from" does this refer to another settlement order?

No idea - but I would guess that she was under some sort of parish relief from St Stephens in Coleman Street, and passed from there to Hackney.  But it is only a guess!

Another removal order. They were not relieved by St Stephen Coleman Street. They were 'passed' from there to Hackney, because their settlement was agreed to be in Hackney.

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Re: Need help reading Elizabeth Madell settlement order
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 12 April 18 19:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you Bookbox,

That information is very useful. I think Thomas Madell was a cooper. They had three kids in lived in the St. George-in-the-East parish for a while.