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Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 23:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Can anyone help find where Ann Witton was born, and where her mum and Dad came from?

Ann Witton was born abt 1832 a census reads Westminster.

Ann Witton Married Charles Ashley in 1853 he died 1854
Ann Ashley then Married John Thomas Gearing in 1856 he died in 1870
Ann Gearing then married James Thackerrey in 1877.

I think Ann sisters were

Mary Witton married to John Thompson in 1849 ( I've just changed this to John where I wrote the name Charles in Error.

Sarah Witton married to Robert Purdy in 1846

then there brother was

Charles William Witton, he married 3 times, i think I've found two.
he married
Susan Norman in 1860
Mary Ann Fleming in 1870

On the wedding certificates they lived at Church Street, where was this?
There dad William Witton is a tailor. One certificate reads Charles William, not William.

The name Purdy signs certificates as if William Witton had died?.

On Google there is a story of  David William Witton b 1788? D 1856 a Merchant. of a firm D W Witton and co.
On the post it reads Church Street. Is this part of my Wittons family?

Any help in finding Ann Witton, and her Dad would be Great, and where did they come from?

Thank you xx

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Re: Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 April 18 01:47 BST (UK) »
Have you found any of the family in the 1851 census? And can you please tell us the dates of birth of any of the others

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Re: Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 April 18 01:52 BST (UK) »
I'm a bit rusty with research after a long layoff, but I couldn't find Ann Witton in any census 1851 to 1871.
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

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Re: Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 April 18 02:04 BST (UK) »
Hi, There is a Thomas Gearing with wife Ann in 1861, Gravel Lane, St Saviour Southwark. Ann is 41 which would make her born around 1820.

ADDED. the same couple in the 1871, says Ann born Liverpool.


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Re: Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 April 18 03:46 BST (UK) »
Just to help other researchers, here is Ann and John Thomas GEARING in the 1861 on Waterloo Rd, Lambeth

John Gearing         31    Clerkenwell, Middlesex  (clerk)
Anne Gearing         37    Westminster, Middlesex
Frances Gearing          1    Holborn, Middlesex
Elizabeth Gearing     0    Lambeth, Surrey
Kate Witton    Grandmother    60    Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire

RG09/348 / 104 pg 14

Modified to add:
And in the 1871 at St Giles
Anne Gearing    34    Westminster, Middlesex  (widowed, mangler)
Emily Jane Gearing    8    Lambeth, Surrey
Ann T Gearing          5    St Giles, Middlesex
Mary A Gearing          2    St Giles, Middlesex
Maria C Gearing          0    St Giles, Middlesex

GBC/1871/0345/0149

(though I can't find birth registrations for the youngest 3 girls?)

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Re: Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 April 18 04:11 BST (UK) »
This looks like daughter Elizabeth in the 1871 at Kilburn, Willesden

William Whinrey Gearing           61    St Anne Soho, Middlesex
Elizabeth Gearing                   55    Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire
Maria Gearing    Daughter           28    St Giles In The Fields, Middlesex
Francis E Gearing    Daughter    22    St Giles In The Fields, Middlesex
Mary S Gearing    Daughter           15    St Giles In The Fields, Middlesex
Elizabeth A Gearing    Granddaughter    10    Waterloo Rd Lambeth
Catherine M Gearing    Granddaughter    6    St Giles, Middlesex

GBC/1871/1329/0075

And possibly in 1881 at Thornhill Sq, Islington
George Samuel Ager                 30    St Lukes, Middlesex, England
George Samuel Ager    Son          6    Islington, Middlesex, England
Alice Maria Ager     Daughter    5    Islington, Middlesex, England
Rose Emiline Ager    Daughter    1    Islington, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Ann Gearing    Niece    20    

RG11/237/14 pg 22

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Re: Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 April 18 05:07 BST (UK) »
I just want to check that on all Ann's marriage certificates say her father was William WITTON, tailor?

Also, what evidence do you have that Mary, Sarah and Charles were her siblings? - just to help find them on the 1841 and 1851 census.  ;)

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Re: Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 April 18 06:43 BST (UK) »
Mary's marriage  to John (not Charles) THOMPSON in 1849  John is a carpenter
Mary's father William WITTON, Tailor, Deceased

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1623/31280_195097-00494?pid=4867512&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1623%26h%3D4867512%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DJwh42%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Jwh42&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

Sarah to Robert PARDY 1846. Sarah's father Charles William WITTON, tailor. (doesn't say deceased)
Robert is a Bricklayer

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1623/31280_198066-00441?pid=7601620&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1623%26h%3D7601620%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DJwh22%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Jwh22&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

Everyone in these two is of full age.
Robert PARDY  is a witness at Mary's marriage

Charles William WITTON to Mary Ann FLEMING 1870.  Charles' father William WITTON, tailor deceased.  Charles is a carpenter and a widower

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1623/31280_195106-00403?pid=2417249&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1623%26h%3D2417249%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DJwh27%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Jwh27&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

Charles William WITTON to Susan NORMAN 1860 he's a widower so there is a previous marriage. He's an Ostler at this marriage. Father William WITTON, Tailor.  Looks like Robert and Sarah PURDY are the witnesses of this marriage

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1623/31280_198072-00021?pid=3507466&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1623%26h%3D3507466%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DJwh26%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Jwh26&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

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Re: Ann Witton. Can anyone find her and her dad William Witton?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 April 18 06:59 BST (UK) »
There is a bit of a mystery here.

in 1871
Charles William WITTON (indexed as Wilton)  b abt 1825. A Carpenter born Leamington
with wife Mary Ann b abt 1836 and a son James b abt 1854 also a carpenter. Born in Bombay, India. (I wasn't expecting that!)

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7619/LNDRG10_653_657-0206?pid=2303272&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3Duki1871%26h%3D2303272%26indiv%3Dtry%26o_vc%3DRecord:OtherRecord%26rhSource%3D1623&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true

But in 1881

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7572/LNDRG11_586_589-0512?pid=20629792&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3Duki1881%26h%3D20629792%26indiv%3Dtry%26o_vc%3DRecord:OtherRecord%26rhSource%3D7619&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true

Charles says he was born Westminster
is a carpenter. Mary Ann with him also
James born Bombay India age 24, (so same family as the 1871 one) and Winifred age 23 born St Giles Middlesex,

there are 2 four year olds. Another Winifred and Catherine M both Dau, and both born Lambeth.  BUT their mother's maiden name is GLAVIN not FLEMING.  they are actually grand daughters. Marraige of Frederick James WITTON to Winifred GLAVIN 1875.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1623/31280_198289-00367?pid=3658737&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1623%26h%3D3658737%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DJwh27%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Jwh27&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

Also in house is 8 year old grandson James HARRISON born Lambeth

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/6598/LNDRG12_388_390-0508?pid=20452077&backurl=https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db%3Duki1891%26h%3D20452077%26indiv%3Dtry%26o_vc%3DRecord:OtherRecord%26rhSource%3D1623&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true

1891 Charles (born Westminster so he's being consistent now) and Mary Ann are together. Charles is a Bricklayer now. James & Winifred are in the same household with their now larger family