Looking for 1901 Wales Census - Jones

[osprey]

the other info is the family of John Jones, father of Jonathan. That John gives his place of birth as Carmarthenshire and in one census specifically Llanfynydd. I've given you the 1851 census when they've moved to Merthyr Tydfil after the death of Evan, father of John. And the 1841 showing the family with Evan before the birth of John and the baptism of John in Llanfynydd.

Same family in 1861 - John before his marriage to Ann Davies
7 Castle Street, Merthyr Tydfil RG9/4052 folio 77 pg 36
Mary Jones head widow 56
Thomas son 26 haulier
David son 23 collier
John son 17 haulier
all born Carmarthenshire

You'll need the marriage certificate for John Jones & Ann Davies to be sure of both fathers' names & occupations.
Possible marriage regs for John Jones & Ann Davies
dec qtr 1868 Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a pg 538
june qtr 1867 Merthyr Tydfil vol 11a pg 559

Just because the eldest son is named Thomas it doesn't mean John's father was called Thomas. You mentioned a Thomas Jones 1801-1875 and I can see no evidence from census entries of a likely candidate.

[designhall1]

Father of John Evan was Evan, correct. Evan was married to Mary, her maiden name was Edwards. Thanks for the other children's names of Evan as I did not have these. Evan's father was William who married another Ann. Don't have her maiden name but thats ok. Williams father was an Evan too who married Anne. I am all good from now on.

[designhall1]

This is the one I am desperate for help with -  parents. Anything.

Name   Richard Hall
Gender   Male
Birth Date   01 Jun 1797
Baptism Date   04 Jun 1797
Baptism Place   Saint Luke Old Street,Finsbury,London,England
Father   John Hall
Mother   Mary
FHL Film Number   585440

[osprey]

Mary's maiden name was NOT Edwards. It was Francis. There are 2 possible registrations for John in Llandilofawr march qtr 1844 vol 554 or 589 both showing with mmn Francis. There isn't one with mmn Edwards. The marriage 13 July 1832 in Llangathen is to Mary Francis. It's on FreeReg and the register entry can be accessed via FindMyPast.

If I can find anything for your other query, I'll put it on your other post so it is all on one place, but most of my family research has been done in South Wales & Cornwall so can't promise to find anything useful. 

[designhall1]

Mary was married to an Evan John not Jones 1788. Their son was a John Evan 1844 who was married to an Ann Davies parents of Jonathan.

[osprey]

sorry without knowing what your sources are for this, I don't know where your info is coming from. Do you have census records or parish entries to back this up? Is your info coming from other people's trees which may or may not be accurate?

[designhall1]

Details provided by direct family so this is accurate. Father of John Evan Jones 1844 was Evan H Jones 1788. I am pretty good with the Jones' tree now.

[osprey]

if by direct family you mean other people's trees, I would suggest doing your own research to be sure. Many online trees are just copied because the names or places seem to match. There is an online tree for a John Evan Jones born around the same time as yours but he was born in Llanbadarn Fawr, Cardiganshire not in Llanfynydd, Carmarthenshire as yours was.

I've seen trees for my direct line that have census entries in 1851 & 1861 for one of my ancestors. He died in 1835 and his widow remarried in 1837 and he definitely wasn't around to be on those census entries.

 

[designhall1]

Sure, noted.