Makaraka Cemetery, Gisborne , N.Z.

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We have uplifted just under 90 headstones that have been buried there since November 1982.
We have been cleaning and arranging for relatives to view.  We do have several we have not been able to find relatives for. Edward and Mary Ling.  Edward died 1910 and Mary 1919.  Ivar Jacobus Hoiby.
Ivar died in 1903 after rescuing two boys in the surf. H was given a post-humous award for bravery.
We have searched so many avenues and would appreciate any help.

[Girl Guide]

Re: LING

Are you sure Edward's wife was Mary?  I cannot find a death registered for Mary but there is one for an Elizabeth - 1919/3583 aged 80 years, giving a birth year of c1839.

There is an Immigration record for an Edward and Elizabeth Ling travelling to Canterbury on 1 September 1874.  Edward's birthplace is given as Suffolk and he is a ploughman.  Elizabeth's birthplace is given as Kent.  Edward aged 29 and Elizabeth aged 31.  There are no children listed with them and at the moment I cannot find any marriage record for Edward and Elizabeth.

This looks to be Edward's birth record from the GRO website:-

LING, EDWARD       WARD     
GRO Reference: 1846  S Quarter in HOXNE  Volume 13  Page 447


There is an 1851 census record which looks to be the correct Edward

Living at Doggetts, New Street, Stradbrooke, Hoxne, Suffolk with parents Edward and Charlotte and six brothers.

Registration district   Hoxne
Piece number   1796
Folio   95
Page   10

If it was me I would be obtaining the death certificate for Elizabeth Ling and seeing what that reveals.

[Girl Guide]

I don't know if you already have this, but there is a newspaper report about Hoiby's death:-

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/PBH19030316.2.21

It appears he was Norwegian.

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Hi, Thank you for your response.   There are two people in the grave and the other is Mary who we understand is Edward's sister.  The headstone definitely states Edward, husband of Elizabeth.  We found an advertisement in a Melbourne newspaper for her about 1912.

We know Ivar Hoiby came from Norway (Bergen).   The Humane Society gave him a post-humous award and sent his mother the certificate and commendation.  His headstone is quite amazing, built like a rock and I think it must have had a cross or something on the top, but it is definitely not there now

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Edwards wife Elizabeth, and she is not buried here, but Mary is.  Think she is sister to Edward.  We have checked and it definitely looks
 like that

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Cant get a death certificate for Elizabeth as we dont know where she died. Definitely not in N,Z.

 

[Girl Guide]

So who is this then?

1919/3583   Ling   Elizabeth   80Y

Above from:- https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz

I see that Mary Ling was 80 when she died therefore giving a birth year of about 1839.  Her burial date is given as 8 April 1919.

What was the advertisement that you found for Mary in a Melbourne newspaper in 1912?  What did it say?

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We have a very old death register kept in a safe at the local library and it has more data than on-line.
A previous data base has Mary in it, and we are checking it out because the death date is the same. It would not be the first or last mistake in that book. 

The mystery deepens in another way because on the NZSG Marriages disc it has Edward marrying Elizabeth Ann Matilda Petty in 1982.    Did he marry twice???  Both times to an Elizabeth

Dot

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Advertisement said something along the lines of - anyone know the whereabouts of Elizabeth Ling please contact box