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Present at Death
« on: Monday 14 May 18 22:55 BST (UK) »
Looking at the Death cert pdf I have just received --  I realised that the
'signature' of person that made their mark as  'present at death' is more than likely a family member.  She is NOT someone I already know about, she could be a niece or a grandaughter of the deceased...So to find the person I have to search the census around the area and time of death.. but would be better if I had a possible age..

SO  ----   I just wondered if there was a rule, regarding age of said signature./markee   :) :) 

Could they be someone below the considered age of an adult? 


hopefully I have explained myself ... properly

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Re: Present at Death
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 May 18 23:07 BST (UK) »
As far as I am aware there is no suggestion that you have to be above a particular age to be an informant on a death certificate.

a bit of information here:-

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/deaths.htm#COL9

Scroll down to Informants  Details

Is there an address for the informant?  If so check it out either via census records or electoral rolls.
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Re: Present at Death
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 May 18 23:20 BST (UK) »
I have just looked at 6 random Scottish deaths which I have & each informant gives their relationship apart from one who states 'Occupier' which I assume may have been a lodger with no kin connection?

Would an informant on English certs. not normally give their relationship where applicable?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Present at Death
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 May 18 23:34 BST (UK) »
thanks both

I am in a veritable pickle at the moment, with this.. so will peruse during the peaceful early hours.

:)
appreciate your in put

Xin


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Re: Present at Death
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 May 18 23:43 BST (UK) »
uhm that bears thinking about will go and check --- on other certs thanks for that Rosinish..

and again am reading the link GG

 ;) ;) ;) ;)

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and that explains it fully -- thank you the link says not necessary at that time to state relationship and that it could be unknown ... family member.

ok 


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Re: Present at Death
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 08:24 BST (UK) »
"Present at the Death" is the qualification that allowed the person to register the death, being a relative is another qualification. On early registers when someone fell into both categories just the "primary" qualification of being present was shown - this changed later and the relationship would also be shown.

So they might be related, but might not.

There has never been a specified age limit for an informant registering a death, birth or indeed being a witness at a wedding. the registrar needs to be satisfied that the person is old enough to understand what they are doing and able to give the information.

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Re: Present at Death
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 May 18 10:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you all

And Anthony precise and concise -- lovely.   I used to have brain like that  ;D ;D ;D





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