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Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« on: Wednesday 30 May 18 13:06 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Been trying to trace Honor Judge (nee Melia) who was born in Ormskirk, Lancashire in 1866. She was the daughter of Patrick Melia and Margaret Roach, and the wife of Patrick Judge whom she married at St. Anne's Church in Ormskirk on 26 January 1884. Family oral history tells that she died in child-birth in 1898 but I cannot find any record of her death to confirm this. Any information about Honor is greatly appreciated. One of the problems tracing Honor is the name of her husband changes on different records - census records showing both Patrick and John, and her daughter's marriage cert showing John instead of Patrick. Patrick had a brother called John.

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Re: Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 13:27 BST (UK) »
No birth registration showing for a child in 1898  :-\

JUDGE, JAMES       mmn MELIA     
1896  Dec Quarter
ORMSKIRK RD Volume 08B  Page 880   
 
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Re: Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 May 18 13:31 BST (UK) »
Deaths Mar qtr 1900   
Honor Judge    age  34   
Bolton RD    8c   250

The death certificate would confirm the cause of her death
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Re: Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 May 18 03:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks. Unfortunately I do not think this the right Honor - already bought this cert and it shows a char lady dying in the Bolton workhouse, which does not fit with what I know about the Honor I am researching. Thanks again.


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Re: Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 May 18 05:09 BST (UK) »
Was there another Honor Judge, though?  Yours is the only one of the right age anywhere in England in 1891, and I can’t see a Judge marrying an Honor between 1891-1901.

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 May 18 07:53 BST (UK) »
Have you checked Bolton workhouse records for any other infomation they may have on that Honor it looks as though records they sill have are quite extensive.
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Bolton/




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Re: Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 May 18 16:23 BST (UK) »
avm228, great question as to whether there is another Honor Judge and to your point I have been unable to find one having searched for the past couple of years. The easiest answer is that woman who died in the Bolton workhouse is my 2x great grandmother...but I am just not convinced. I can see how oral history from the family could be created to explain a death in child birth when the truth was otherwise, but from all records I have seen I see no reason why she would have died in a workhouse at 34 years of age.

I will follow rosie99's suggestion and see what I can find out from Bolton workhouse records.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my post.

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Re: Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 May 18 16:31 BST (UK) »
rosie99,

I will also check out the 1896 birth of James Judge. Not a name I have seen before, but a possibility given the DOBs of Honor's other children.

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Re: Honor Judge nee Melia b. Ormskirk 1866
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 May 18 16:53 BST (UK) »
The workhouse hospital would have been used by anyone requiring hospital care at this time regardless as to whether they were resident.
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