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Eliza Bush born 1886 Woolwich
« on: Wednesday 06 June 18 19:53 BST (UK) »
I wonder if someone can find me the 1891 census or a census with Eliza and her parents in it.

If I have the right birth her mothers maiden name was Davis. I just need to find their names so I can then find their marriage just to confirm I have the right birth which I think is Dec qtr 1886 Woolwich. I do know she was born 26/11/1886.

Married in 1915 in Willesden.

Alan
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Re: Eliza Bush born 1886 Woolwich
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 20:40 BST (UK) »
I wonder if someone can find me the 1891 census or a census with Eliza and her parents in it.

If I have the right birth her mothers maiden name was Davis. I just need to find their names so I can then find their marriage just to confirm I have the right birth which I think is Dec qtr 1886 Woolwich. I do know she was born 26/11/1886.

You may not have the right birth.  From the GRO:
birth Dec qtr 1886 Woolwich vol 1d p1187 BUSH Eliza Ann mmn DAVIS
death Mar qtr 1888 Woolwich vol 1d p770 BUSH Eliza Ann age 1

Have you considered the possibility that Eliza's parents did not get round to registering the birth until 1887?  This could give other possibilities including:
Dec qtr 1886 Bethnal Green vol 1c p200 BUSH Elizabeth Emily mmn CARTWRIGHT
Mar qtr 1887 Saffron Walden vol 4a p617 BUSH Eliza mmn BENTLEY
Mar qtr 1887 Eccleshall Bierlow vol 9c p297 BUSH Elizabeth mmn FIRTH

Do you have any information on later documents (1901 or 1911 census, marriage cert etc) to give an indication of her birthplace or father's name?

Philip
Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Eliza Bush born 1886 Woolwich
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 21:03 BST (UK) »
Hello Philip thanks for your help and yes of course she was probably registered in March 1887 now you have been so kind and ruled out the one I thought it was. I only have them in the 1939 with her DOB . I haven't got their marriage certificate because I have already ordered a cert. by mistake if you go to my topic on the Worcestershire page William H Mansell you will be able to read how I got to here. As I writing a book I just need to know her parents names, I don't need any dates from them.

Alan :) :) :)
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Re: Eliza Bush born 1886 Woolwich
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 21:11 BST (UK) »
It looks like I might have to get the marriage certificate to find the father's name because the Saffron Wells one uses Eliza as she did on her marriage but Saffron Wells is a long way from Willesden where they got married.

Alan
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Re: Eliza Bush born 1886 Woolwich
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 June 18 13:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Philip.

I think I have worked it out now. Eliza born Saffron Waldon and is with her brother living at Willesden.

Her Mother was Elizabeth Bentley married John Sell in 1865, then she married a Daniel Bush in 1880. Eliza's brother is George Daniel Bush. I think her father Daniel died in an asylum in 1899 and buried in Saffron Waldon.

Alan
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Re: Eliza Bush born 1886 Woolwich
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 June 18 13:24 BST (UK) »
Your're in luck!
Eliza Bush was baptized 21 May 1887, at Saffron Walden. The register gives date of birth.
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DT63-N7D?i=1334&cc=1465709&cat=451813

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Re: Eliza Bush born 1886 Woolwich
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 June 18 13:42 BST (UK) »
I have also found the death date 3/7/1953 and burial/cremation of Eliza on some thing called deceased online but couldn't get an image off it if there is one.

Alan
Warwickshire-      Green, Mansell
Gloucestershire-   Mansell, Haines
Worcestershire-    Haynes, Simms
Oxfordshire-         Green. Hawkins
Leicestershire-      Kirby. Gee
North Shields-      Middlemiss, Haines, Faircloth