James Sims, 1801, Isleworth

[ila29]

Hello everyone,

I am looking for information on a James Sims.

Born - 1801, Isleworth
Bap. - 13 September, All Saints, Isleworth

Marriage to a Mary Bennett - 11 Apr. 1830, Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen, Spitalfields.
alternatively, 3 Mar. 1832 and again 12 Mar. 1833.

Possible (?) children
William - 1 May 1827, Isleworth (illegitimate?)
Henry - 30 Sep. 1831

Any help with his/their ancestors and descendants is eagerly anticipated and will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,
Ila29

[rosie99]

Is this the son William in 1851
HO107 /1698 f241 p15

William Sims -24-bn Isleworth   
Eliza   -21 -bn Brentford   
James - 7mths-bn Isleworth

Added William married Eliza Reynolds at Heston 23 Apr 1850

[rosie99]

In 1841 Henry is with James & Mary Appleton. Also there a James Simms age 15 and Mary Ann Simms age 12

James Appleton married Mary Simms (a widow) on 18 May 1834 at Heston

[suzard]

Marriage after banns
Christchurch with St Mary and St Stephen Spitalfields Tower hamlets
Page 22
12 March 1833
James Sims bachelor & Mary bennett spinster both of the Parish
witnesses thomas Bennett richard Bennett
all made their mark


Suz

[rosie99]

I wonder if that is the right marriage 

From familysearch

William Simms
Christening Date   20 May 1827
Christening Place   ISLEWORTH,LONDON
Birth Date   01 May 1827
Father's Name   James Simms
Mother's Name   Mary


Henry Sims
Christening 07 Oct 1831
ISLEWORTH,LONDON
Birth Date   30 Sep 1831
Father's Name   James Sims
Mother's Name   Mary

ADDED are these children who you are following backwards.  It may be better if you tell us who you are trying to track backwards

[rosie99]

Looking at your earlier post for Henry Wilkinson Symonds in this area
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787008.0

There was mention on an Edward Simms born Brentford reg district.  Is this post linked to him

May be this one? No mmn listed so likely illegitimate

SIMONS, EDWARD       -     
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in BRENTFORD  Volume 03A  Page 41   
 

ila29, you may not be aware but there are two versions of the GRO index, the one posted by cas has recently become available. I understand that they are from different sources of GRO records so spellings can somtimes vary.

The other index for the same record which freebmd have is
Birth Dec qtr 1857 
Simms    Edward       
Brentford    3a   41

[rosie99]

James Sims
Age   31
Burial date 10 Apr 1831
Residence   Isleworth
All Saints Isleworth

If James was the father of Henry bn 1831 and whose probable widow was Mary that married James Appleton then it cannot be that 1833 marriage

[suzard]

Hello everyone,

I am looking for information on a James Sims.


Marriage to a Mary Bennett - 11 Apr. 1830, Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen, Spitalfields.
alternatively, 3 Mar. 1832 and again 12 Mar. 1833.



Any help with his/their ancestors and descendants is eagerly anticipated and will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,
Ila29

I can only find the marriage to Mary Bennett 12 Mar 1833

I think the 3 Mar 1 833 date is one of the dates the banns were read which has been mistranscrbed -image shows banns dates as 17 Feb/ 24 Feb/3 Mar 1833

How certain are you that wife Mary's surname was Bennett??

Suz

[ila29]

Hello rosie99 and suzard,

Thankyou both for your replies.
Looking at the 1841 census, I see Henry (b. 1831) living with his mother Mary (b.1801), his stepfather James Appleton (b. 1806) and siblings James (b. 1826) and Maryann/Mary Ann (b.1829). But no sign of William (b. 1827). Maybe William, who as you report married Eliza Reynolds, was not of this family.
Your inclusion of James Sims' burial date was very helpful in nullifying the 1833 marriage.
Yes, rosie99, I am still working on Edward Wilkinson Symons/Sims. I believe he was illegitimate, his mother was Mary ? and his father was Henry Sims (b. 30 Sep. 1831, Isleworth) who married Harriet Potter (née Chapman, 1831-1864) on 18 Nov. 1861, Twickenham. After Harriets death he married Mary Ann Taverner (1845-) on 5 Feb. 1865, Ealing.

Once again many thanks,
ila29