Trying to find John Johnson and Ellen Standing help please

[Sally4x]

Hi,

I have drawn a blank with my relative John Johnson. He was born in Coppull in 1865 the son of Robert and Mary. In 1889 he marries an Ellen Standing and they have two children - Polly born in 1890 and Ralph born in 1894 who dies the following year. The family are on the 1891 census and then on  oth the 1901 and 1911 censuses John is lodging with other people but still married. I can’t find Ellen and Polly on any census after 1891.

Ellen appears to be the daughter of Daniel Standing and Mary Gregson, but her birth record says her mother’s maiden name is Standing and Daniel appears to do a bunk and start a new life in Morley, Yorkshire as a single man. No idea what he opens to Mary.

Any help on this would be really appreciated, because it has stumped me! Thanks

[Gibel]

Do you have Ellen's birth certificate and marriage certificate? If you have please could you post the full details from them.

[rosie99]

Just linking 1891 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7989-NMM

ADDED
Marriage was Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended

[Sally4x]

Hi - I have ordered the certificates.

[rosie99]

Let us know when they arrive 

[Maiden Stone]

Have you looked for Ellen as Nellie/Nelly or Helen on census?

[Sally4x]

Yes I have looked at every variation and the same with Polly which I thought would be easier. There is a Polly Hoddy on the 1911 census which doesn’t fit anyone else but not sure!

[rosie99]

I was just looking at her in 1911 but can't see her anywhere else 

[Sally4x]

Ok well I think that John is on the 1901 census with his daughter. It she is now called Mary E Johnson. Maybe Ellen was in hospital or something. So I am guessing Polly has become Mary Ellen. No wonder I couldn’t find her!