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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 24 June 18 11:43 BST (UK) »
This one also appears in a search
Jeannette A Scott born 1850 in Bermuda West Indies REG1 Gro Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
So her father would have been a soldier with the surname Scott...

Jennie Scott married to Charles Lovel (maybe?)

Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 24 June 18 12:18 BST (UK) »
Her father was with the 42nd regiment.

Jennie Lovel was born 1890

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 24 June 18 12:26 BST (UK) »
Yes so Jeanette Scott is not Jennie Lovel
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 03:09 BST (UK) »
Possible children of George Scott (born 1809), and siblings of William Scott (born 1832)???

Walter Scott, 1833
John Scott, 1837
George Scott, 1839
Eliza Scott, 1842
Henry Scott, 1846
Ellen Scott, 1849
Thomas Scott, 1851

(All dates may be off a bit. It seems that the dates I find in FamilySearch.org often are off a year compared to your sources.)


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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 03:54 BST (UK) »
1910 Marion Easton is a widow and in hospital
Says she has 7 living children (out of 15)
parent's birth place recorded as Bermuda, and then that has been crossed out and it seems to say Atlantic Is  - is there such a place?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RV5-47V?i=24&cc=1727033

Some of this information has already been provided on another forum.  There is another 1910 record for Marion in NJ with her children:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKBG-162

William Easton died 8 Feb 1910 (see FindAGrave - noted as aged 39, husband of Marion) and Marion married Walter E Davis in 1913.

1920 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4YZ-W9H
1930 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4FV-9G4

New Jersey Marriage Index for Marion Easton & Walter E Davis:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m9n/
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 06:07 BST (UK) »
Possible children of George Scott (born 1809), and siblings of William Scott (born 1832)???

Walter Scott, 1833
John Scott, 1837
George Scott, 1839
Eliza Scott, 1842
Henry Scott, 1846
Ellen Scott, 1849
Thomas Scott, 1851

(All dates may be off a bit. It seems that the dates I find in FamilySearch.org often are off a year compared to your sources.)

is this from a census?

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 16:10 BST (UK) »
New Jersey Marriage Index for Marion Easton & Walter E Davis:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m9n/

I have no idea what information is on New Jersey marriage records, but I have several marriages from other US states which name both parents of the bride and the groom.  If Marion is sister to Charles and Stuart then perhaps your best bet would be to obtain a copy of this marriage from the New Jersey State Archives?

MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 17:18 BST (UK) »

Yes, it's from the England and Wales Census, 1851:
Possible children of George Scott (born 1809), and siblings of William Scott (born 1832)???

Walter Scott, 1833
John Scott, 1837
George Scott, 1839
Eliza Scott, 1842
Henry Scott, 1846
Ellen Scott, 1849
Thomas Scott, 1851

(All dates may be off a bit. It seems that the dates I find in FamilySearch.org often are off a year compared to your sources.)

is this from a census?

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Re: Mystery woman from Bermuda...or Birmingham, England?
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 17:53 BST (UK) »
So  we now need censuses to show all the siblings

Could it be a male Scott who went to Bermuda  not a mystery woman
Or

A bermudan man coming to England  and fathering a Scott child

I get the feeling roosters may beven able to join the dots for you  .
Avm I hadn't noticed their ages at marriage. ..I wonder how common it was for 15 year olds to marry .

As far as we know, Sam was always in Bermuda up to that point. The story is that he met my female ancestor, fell in love, and they had two sons, Charles and Stuart.  My feeling is that they were at least in their 20's. Just a feeling, maybe because I wonder if she were on her own, and not under parental control, possibly a young widow? Back then, I would imagine that parents would not be happy that their daughter bore a child out of wedlock, so I wonder how that happened again (possibly twice, if Marion Scott was a sibling; see the other posts)?  I think that the parents would have kept her from him, possibly shipping her to England to stay with family. Also, we don't think they were married. I personally don't think they were. As of 1861, the punishment in Bermuda for a Caucasian woman bearing a black child was whipping, so would their marriage be legal in Bermuda in 1865, when their first child was born? (I read that online somewhere, but can't remember the source). Now, in the U.S., where I live, some states have antiquated laws that are rarely enforced : New York State has a very old law that states that adultery is illegal--but it's rarely enforced (or half the state would probably be doing jail time!  ;D). So, perhaps the Bermuda law was an antiquated law that was not enforced (?)