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Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #72 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 22:08 BST (UK) »
Zetland the suburb of Sydney is a good possiblity and then he could have been registered as just "Hamilton" not McHamilton.

He could also have been registered as just "John Hamilton". And like others have said "Hetty" might be a typo/misheard for "Betty"

This guy could be an option
HAMILTON  JOHN H W 12141/1867 ELIZABETH MORPETH

Or this one?
HAMILTON  JOHN 20133/1873 JAMES ELIZABETH WELLINGROVE

If we could find some other Hamiltons/McHamiltons born in Zetland, NSW or nearby.

Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #73 on: Tuesday 17 July 18 23:03 BST (UK) »
Whiteout,

My concern is the fact where it says Shetland it also has 'Isles', has this been an assumption or what as Shetland was once known as Zetland?

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Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 09:11 BST (UK) »
At this point, this might be a problem for DNA as there are many Shetland Islands DNA projects.

In Sydney there was a J.McHamilton of Waverly that died in 1916 from wounds (where??)

Also in New Zealand here an A.McHamilton travelling in 1892 to the Wairarapa

Seems odd that a man not clearly proven to be born in a allied country would be attested for WW1 doesn't it, merchant navy must have been less worried about it

Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #75 on: Thursday 19 July 18 00:13 BST (UK) »
Seems odd that a man not clearly proven to be born in a allied country would be attested for WW1 doesn't it, merchant navy must have been less worried about it

I think they must have known he, at the very least had citizenship & possibly the papers were written in a hurry?

I'm still of the belief he was illegitimate i.e. it would be interesting to find a Hetty/Hettie with a possible match for the surname which is almost undecipherable.
Could he have been an orphan/adopted or whatever?
Finding a death for John James prior to the marriage too would be interesting.

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: McHamiltons from The Shetlands
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 19 July 18 12:11 BST (UK) »
John James McHamilton was still alive in 1909 when the wedding took place though according to the marriage certificate of John Harold McHamilton and Rosa May Callender.

Also another clue was that John James Hamilton was in the Imperial Navy (which Navy though??)

(I did find some information that called the AIF the Australian Imperial Forces, was there an Australian Imperial Navy? - evidence: Trove Au article from 1909 titled "Imperial Navy. Australia's Navy" https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/89918192 )

Perhaps Imperial Navy just means the British Navy in which case he should have a naval record at the British Archives

I think John Harold was illegitimate to but a birth registration would be helpful!
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)