Hi
So is this right, Edward Wilsher 1760 married a Letitia Smith 1760. Then their Son William 1811 married Lydia Jones 1812. Sue the founder of the Romany genes Web Site found me this Census several yeares ago, is this the William and Lydia that you talk of.
People not in houses*
1861*Pontefract, Yorkshire
William Willshaw abt 1811 Longbillington, Nottinghamshire, Head Tinner & Brazier
Lidia Willshaw abt 1812 Codbrough, Nottinghamshire, Wife
Joseph Willshaw abt 1846 Darrington, Yorkshire Son
Lidia Willshaw abt 1848 Lincoln, Lincolnshire Daughter
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Walter Nelson abt 1829 Scotland Son-in-Law
Lotis Nelson abt 1829 Stowe, Lincolnshire, Daughter
Henry Nelson abt 1853 Wakefield, Yorkshire, Grandson
George Nelson abt 1854 Wakefield, Yorkshire, Grandson
Harriet Nelson abt 1856 Carlton, Yorkshire, Granddaughter
Mary Nelson abt 1858 Pontefract, Yorkshire, Granddaughter
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William Blewitt abt 1809 widow Stamford, Lincolnshire, Head tinner & Brazier
Sarah Blewitt abt 1837 widow London, Middlesex, Daughter-in-Law
Valuza Blewitt abt 1856 York, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter
Enis Blewitt abt 1860 Hull, Yorkshire, England
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John Lee abt 1797 Woodbridge, Suffolk, Head
Charlott Lee abt 1791 Woodbridge, Suffolk, Wife
Tenna Lee abt 1834 Livingston, Norfolk, Daughter
Mary Boss abt 1791 Farnham, Suffolk, Widow
John Phillips abt 1832 Thorne, Yorkshire Tinner & Brazier
Do you see also how it states William was born at Longbillington, Nottinghamshire. Now look at the
"The Lincolnshire Travellers Birth, Marriage and Death Certificates and Parish Register Collection"
http://rtfhs.org.uk/the-lincolnshire-travellers-birth-marriage-and-death-certificates-and-parish-register-collection/This is the Web Site named the Romany Travellers Family History Society, they are listing Edward and Letitia as Wiltshires, you name them as Wilshers and the Sue says Willshaws.
WILTSHIRE Edward
Bp 14 May 1826, Timberland, Lincolnshire, son of Edward and Lydia Wiltshire, Travellers.
WILTSHIRE John
Bp 10 April 1833, Woolsthorpe, Lincolnshire, son of John and Sarah Wiltshire, of Snelson, Derbyshire, Chair Mender.
WILTSHIRE William
Bp 19 July 1805, Long Bennington, Lincolnshire, son of Edward and Letitia Wiltshire, a Traveller.
Look at the record just above of William 1805 saying Long Bennington, Lincolnshire, son of Edward and Letitia Wiltshire. I have been trying to find Longbillington, Nottinghamshire where it says in the Census record at the top from 1861*Pontefract, Yorkshire
William Willshaw abt 1811 Longbillington, Nottinghamshire, Head Tinner & Brazier
Well i have looked and looked and it seems Longbillington is just an acient field, look at this quote from this book
Thomas Cox - 1738 - Great Britain
... and in a Field belonging to it, are the Ruins (as the Inhabitants believe) of a Town called Long Billington, which, for many Ages hath been demolished.
I was wandering what do you think, and do you see in these three acounts that i have wrote above, one from you, one from Sue and one from the R.T.F.H.S. how Wilsher Wiltshire and Willshaw is Transcribed as thier name, would you tell me of the record you found of Edward Wilsher and Letitia.
And do not forget they used the different names themselfs, they new what they were doing, i wrote of this also on the Dan Boswell posts, my Mother told me long ago that they would evan have it out among themselfs as to which was the real name, my Mother told me which one Her own Mother would talk of as being the oridgenal one, but i will not say the true name. I was wandering is Longbillington Nottinghamshire, and Long Bennington, Lincolnshire just a mix up, or was they just travelling around, and where was the Old Edward born, do you think he was like a local man of an area who married into the Smiths or did everything start with is Son William, or did he have a Dad who travelled about, what do you think, you have done a very big amount of research, i new this from your first post, just put the lot on in one go. I will put as much on about the Woodwards for you that i have found, do not research to hard though, you will just burn out and not enjoy the exsperience. I was reading sometimes right through the night till morning doing research about the times of Daniel Boswell, well i would read many books page to page and my eyes just wanted to close, but i would not let a single page be unread incase i missed something then all of a sudden after several books i noticed all you had to do was look at the index at the back of the book, wow, then i realised lots of the old books had all the names and places in the pagers at the back of the book listing the page name to read, i was evan reading the index of the books but did not realise what it all meant, when the penny dropped i just could not believe how stupid i was, never mind.
Tuesday 6 October 1908 Derbyshire Courier
POACHINQ AFFRAY. Another “Suspect’’ in Custody. ‘‘l am innocent ; i know nothing about it,” was the answer of Thomas Wiltshire, alias Wilshaw and Wilsher, who until recently resided at 40, Apple Street, Sheffield, and occupation is a hawker, who was brought up to Court on Monday, on a charge of having inflicted greivous bodily harm on Sergeant Butchby and Police-constable Aves, at Tolley