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John and Catherine Carroll
« on: Tuesday 31 July 18 16:46 BST (UK) »
My 2x gt grandparents. They lived in Balbriggan and ran a lodging house in Chapel Lane. He died in 1906 in the workhouse hospital in Balrothery. I don't think they were inmates. He was born in Meath about 1829 and she was Catherine Keating from Wexford. Can't find where they are buried. Can anyone help. I have looked near Balbriggan with no luck. This is my first post.

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Re: John and Catherine Carroll
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 18:02 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to rootschat ;D

I see them in the 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003664989/

Before the  age of free healthcare people used the workhouse as a free hospital and if he was in the workhouse he would have been an 'inmate' ( really not a nice term) and of course would also mean the family had no burial costs either.

This is a great site which you could find more. The workhouse had a burial ground situated across the main road, a quarter of a mile to the north-west of the workhouse. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Balrothery/
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: John and Catherine Carroll
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 18:12 BST (UK) »
Even if he was buried in a family plot not many could afford a headstone so he could be in an unmarked grave. Often deaths from that era are only recorded on headstones because later generations added their name when putting a stone up for a later death.


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Re: John and Catherine Carroll
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 19:32 BST (UK) »
for reference
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Balbriggan_Urban/Chapel_Lane/1263530/
Hi and welcome to rootschat ;D

I see them in the 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003664989/

Before the  age of free healthcare people used the workhouse as a free hospital and if he was in the workhouse he would have been an 'inmate' ( really not a nice term) and of course would also mean the family had no burial costs either.

This is a great site which you could find more. The workhouse had a burial ground situated across the main road, a quarter of a mile to the north-west of the workhouse. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Balrothery/
I have been many times and seen the remains of the workhouse and burial plot opposite.

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Re: John and Catherine Carroll
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 20:12 BST (UK) »
for reference
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Balbriggan_Urban/Chapel_Lane/1263530/
Hi and welcome to rootschat ;D

I see them in the 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003664989/

Before the  age of free healthcare people used the workhouse as a free hospital and if he was in the workhouse he would have been an 'inmate' ( really not a nice term) and of course would also mean the family had no burial costs either.

This is a great site which you could find more. The workhouse had a burial ground situated across the main road, a quarter of a mile to the north-west of the workhouse. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Balrothery/
There are no records for Balrothery. I have tried this and was disappointed not find more info.

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Re: John and Catherine Carroll
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 20:17 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to rootschat ;D

I see them in the 1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003664989/

Before the  age of free healthcare people used the workhouse as a free hospital and if he was in the workhouse he would have been an 'inmate' ( really not a nice term) and of course would also mean the family had no burial costs either.

This is a great site which you could find more. The workhouse had a burial ground situated across the main road, a quarter of a mile to the north-west of the workhouse. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Balrothery/
I was told at the GRO they were probably not inmates. I have tried looking on all the listings for the cemeteries in the area with no luck. Had been hoping to find records so family may have been mentioned collecting the bodies. That way perhaps I would have found where they were buried. I have been looking for years.

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Re: John and Catherine Carroll
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 20:21 BST (UK) »
Even if he was buried in a family plot not many could afford a headstone so he could be in an unmarked grave. Often deaths from that era are only recorded on headstones because later generations added their name when putting a stone up for a later death.
I have tried the church records in the area and still no luck. Very frustrating. Just run out of idea's now.

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Re: John and Catherine Carroll
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 21:14 BST (UK) »
You situation isn't unusual, it's very hard, often impossible to find burials.
I have a newspaper report of my great grandmother's funeral and still can't find her grave.