Alice

[rosie99]

I know, I've been through everything. Very long story! Henry Budd doesn't seem to be registered either. His full name was actually William Henry Budd born in Southampton, father Robert Budd. If I could only establish the married name, I could probably get somewhere.

Which document lists him as William Henry Budd

[Glouc Man]

His son's (my grandfather) marriage certificate and his burial at Elstead in 1891. He died a couple of months after the census of typhoid - was at his in-laws probably in a hope to aid recovery.

[rosie99]

No real evidence then that it was his proper name. 

Names on marriage certificates for fathers are often wrong.  Name at death / burial probably supplied by son who gave it on marriage.  On neither of these occasions would anyone have had to provide proof of his name.

[Glouc Man]

True, but similarly have no real proof that it was just Henry!

[BushInn1746]

Just found Charlotte in 1881 with her parents - I see she's a soldier's wife. Soldiering sometimes runs in families, so I wonder if Henry and Alice might be in military birth indexes? (I have no experience of these.)

1881 Census at Elstead, Charlotte Budd is Married, Daughter to Head and a Soldiers Wife

John Legg   Head   M   54   Elstead, Surrey, England
Mary Legg   Wife   F   59   Chert, Surrey, England
George Legg   Son   M   22   Elstead, Surrey, England
Charlotte Budd   Daughter   F   21   Elstead, Surrey, England
Fredrick Legg   Son   M   18   Elstead, Surrey, England
William John Legg   Son   M   14   Elstead, Surrey, England
Leah Legg   Daughter   F   11   Elstead, Surrey, England
Albert Henry Legg   Son   M   8   Elstead, Surrey, England

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Although civil registration was introduced in 1837, it was not until 1874 that the registration of a birth became compulsory.
http://www.sog.org.uk/learn/help-getting-started-with-genealogy/guide-three

Mark

[rosie99]

His Army records and marriage both show him as just Henry.  He also signed as Henry.

[Glouc Man]

Perhaps he didn't like being called Billy Budd!

[rosie99]

I am wondering if Robert bn Liss who is living in Sheffield was Henry's uncle and that Henry was possibly the illegitimate child of one of his sisters.

In 1851 HO107 / 1669 f608 p22 Roberts sisters Martha (c1828) Moore, Elizabeth Budd (c1832) and Laura Budd (c1844) are all together in Southampton.  In 1861 Laura is staying in Halifax Sheffield with Robert & family.

[arthurk]

Just going back to this:

Ulysee?
Possible marriage Mar Qtr 1890 in Brighton Joseph Ulysse to Alice Pullen
Ray

1881 census has an Alice Pullen aged 22 in Brighton, born in Dover - RG11/1089 fo54 p16

(I read it as Ulysse, which is what FreeBMD has.)