Evelyn Watson

[Ladyhawk]

I just logged on to say that I found Caroline’s death in Teddington cemetery, buried 24th January 1920, Roland died in 1918, so his mother and his sister were with him when he died.

Just had a quick skim read of your post Ladyhawk, but now going to go through it slowly, the memorial is really interesting, my mother (daughter of Roland) was called Caroline, but always known as Carrie!

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/137547182

looks to be the same grave stone and burial plot as Harold Ellis

Caroline Russell
BIRTH   1859 Scarborough, Scarborough Borough, North Yorkshire, England
DEATH   24 Jan 1920 (aged 60–61)
BURIAL   Teddington Cemetery
PLOT   Cu Grave A.43

 

[arthurk]

Good finds, Ladyhawk.

From Find a Will:

ELLIS Harry of St Lucia Hampton Road Teddington Middlesex died 30 Mar 1917. Probate London 22 Feb 1918 to Caroline Russell (wife of John William Russell). Effects £1585

RUSSELL otherwise ELLIS Caroline of Rosendale, Windsor Road, Teddington Middlesex (wife of John Russell) died 24 Jan 1920. Probate London 22 Mar 1920 to Evelyn Watson (wife of William Watson) and Ernest Edward Bird solicitor. Effects £14108 15s 3d.

[Ladyhawk]

Well done arthurk 

for info. this is probably death entry of Henry/Harold's wife Mary Ellis

Jun 1889 Leeds    9b   326
Ellis    Mary age    37   

[Ladyhawk]

ELLIS Harry of St Lucia Hampton Road Teddington Middlesex died 30 Mar 1917. Probate London 22 Feb 1918 to Caroline Russell (wife of John William Russell). Effects £1585

The address ties in with the Army record for Thomas Herbert Muir wife Evelyn Muir/Watson nee Russell and 1911c for Harry, Caroline & Evelyn Ellis

[Ladyhawk]

Is this the death entry for JWR?

Mar 1927     Leeds    9b   613
Russell    John W   age  71   

City of Leeds
Leeds Cemetery (General Portion)
Register of Inscription Graves

There are 9 names on  page 135

Grave no 21364 section 2
John W Russell   Age:   71
Death Date:   1 Feb 1927
Burial Place:   Leeds, West Yorkshire
Interment
6
Consecutive Number of Interment
72812
details from Leeds, England, Beckett Street Cemetery, 1845 - 1987

[arthurk]

The transcription of that burial entry at Yorkshire Indexers gives his address as 16 Westlock Terrace and his occupation as fireclay labourer.

[Ladyhawk]

The transcription of that burial entry at Yorkshire Indexers gives his address as 16 Westlock Terrace and his occupation as fireclay labourer.

That address is on this marriage cert, also latest census Harold, brother & father

25 Dec 1915 Armley, St Bartholomew, Yorkshire

Harold Frederick Russell  33, turner, 16 Westlock Terrace Burmantofts
Father John William Russell occ clay grinder

Annie Ibbotson 32, tailoress, 80 Grasmere St., Armley
father Edmund, railway guard

Harold Frederick Russell Baptism 8 Mar 1882 Burmantofts, St Stephen, Yorkshire
Father:   John William Russell, occ miner Mother:   Caroline
abode 84 Shakespeare St

[pyghtle]

Hi, I’m back.....I am amazed at all these findings, I did know a lot of the Leeds bits, I knew where John William was buried, I have been to his grave, it’s a communal grave in Becket Street Cemetery, but never in a million years would I have found all the information about Caroline, I just assumed that she died between 1901 and 1911. All this has snowballed from finding details of Roland Russell’s death in Teddington, my Grandmother Emma Russell, Roland’s wife must have known all this, but I suppose in those days it was quite a disgrace to leave your husband, your detective work arthurk persisting in following the Ellis lead has been really impressive, but thanks also to everyone who has contributed, it means a lot to me because I knew some of the people involved, some questions will never be answered, I have photographs of Roland but nothing else, no clues whatsoever of this family history. I now will read through everything again and update my family tree.

[pyghtle]

Just thinking....Roland was in Teddington, Emma in Leeds, he dies in Teddington with his sister and Mother and not in Leeds with his wife and family, but buried in Leeds, wonder if he had left Emma, or did he go to Teddington in order to protect his family from the flu pendamic, I am only thinking this because no one in the family seemed to know what happened to Roland, so if he had left Emma she would have kept it a secret, everyone in the family always said that he died in the First World War, this is why it has taken me so long to find his death, I was on the wrong trail for years.