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Re: Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 30 September 18 12:17 BST (UK) »
Another Hong Kong forum for you to put an enquiry on?

https://gwulo.com/forum/2

gwulo.com

Thomas Cheung - Corporation Inspector (Tramways), was that an inspector in Liverpool?
Liverpool Corporation Tramways: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_Corporation_Tramways

Wing Ying - master grocer - did he employ workers? where I wonder?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 30 September 18 18:43 BST (UK) »
Our assumption is that "Corporation Inspector" refers to Liverpool Corporation and "Tramways" being the name it was known by prior to that. We've searched Gwulo but haven't posted there yet. I've searched the archives of South China Morning post and North China Herald and other than their being a part of the passenger arrivals on the RMS Canton, they just seem to disappear. Since they made the trip in 1949 it's doubtful they would have ventured to the mainland. With his recent British citizenship their status may have been in question by by a communist government. The passenger list shows "Hong Kong" as the "place of future permanent residence" so they were not making the trip as visitors. It would be interesting to find out the name of the Cafe where he was proprietor.

As for "Master Grocer" I did find a passenger/crew manifest that I think may have been hired crew by Blue Funnel or some other, but almost all were listed as "Grocer"
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Re: Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 30 September 18 19:18 BST (UK) »
Do you know if the family remained in Hong Kong,  never returning to U.K.?

I don’t quite understand what information you are searching - before or after their marriage.
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Re: Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 30 September 18 19:44 BST (UK) »
Trying to find out what happened to them. They disappeared into thin air after arriving in HK! Thought maybe if we could find out more about their time in Liverpool, it might lead to clues about where they ended up. There is no sign that they ever returned to UK. The adopted daughter may still be alive and would have siblings or half siblings
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Re: Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 30 September 18 20:56 BST (UK) »
We are not allowed to post much information about 1939 register.
Have you tried searching for both versions of the name - Tchong and Ying?

Rose Ying is in Liverpool Electoral Register at Huskisson Street in 1945.
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Re: Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 30 September 18 21:43 BST (UK) »
Yes, we just found that one too, but no sign of what happened to her husband or daughter. There is also an Evelyn Abraham in #9 Huskisson Street ( there was a witness, D G Abraham on their marriage in 1944 ) could be same neighbour family, or someone they knew? Huskisson Street looks like a good area, so she may still have been reasonably well off or at least comfortable
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« Reply #33 on: Sunday 30 September 18 21:51 BST (UK) »
Also the term "Grocer" as the occupation Ying Tchong's father looks like maybe a catch-all for many imported Chinese workers. I found a manifest where virtually everyone was listed as a "Grocer" These are all from Canada, although there is a "Wong Ying" that might fit. I just show it as an example
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Re: Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 30 September 18 22:05 BST (UK) »
Yes, we just found that one too, but no sign of what happened to her husband or daughter. There is also an Evelyn Abraham in #9 Huskisson Street ( there was a witness, D G Abraham on their marriage in 1944 ) could be same neighbour family, or someone they knew? Huskisson Street looks like a good area, so she may still have been reasonably well off or at least comfortable

Have you tried to find out about the other person in 1939?
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Re: Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 30 September 18 22:22 BST (UK) »
Do you mean C V Whitehead, the other witness?
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