Thanks for this sugarfizzle, you can get a predicted Y-DNA haplogroup from 23andMe, AncestryDNA and MyHeritage autosomal male DNA tests using the MorleyDNA tool, instructions below
http://www.geneticgenealogist.net/2017/08/updated-method-to-get-ydna-haplogroup.html
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I recommend using the ISOGG tree rather than the experimental tree, as that is apparently considered more inaccurate now.
Thanks Melba,
I thought I would give this a go too!
24: 1691 markers (2 no-calls)
0% of calls for this chromosome are heterozygous
5 Y-DNA position(s) lacking mutations recognised by the genetic genealogy community. These Y-DNA positions may not be very useful.
388 recognised mutation(s) with positive calls.
1240 recognised mutation(s) with negative calls.
2 recognised mutation(s) with no-calls.
My most likely is R1b1a2a1a2c with the M529/L21/S145 being green for both ISOGG and experimental. Looking at the Family Tree site, there are 6 Clarks (surname Clarke) out of the 3,109 testees. 2 of the 6 are on R-DF21. Something to look into when Y testing hopefully becomes more affordable!
I think most of us in the UK & Ireland are R1b of some sort or another, interesting % tables here
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtmlit is also seems to be dominant haplogroup in most of western Europe
your particular haplogroup M529/L21 is particularly dominant in the British Isles - map link
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_Y-DNA_haplogroups.shtml#R1b-L21R1b 'family trees'
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml#R1b-subcladesIt appears of your particular subclade, famous bearers were the Stuart Royals, William Gladstone, James Buchanan US President, Joseph Smith the founder of Mormonism, and Che Guevera
! Of mine the L2, includes Plantagenets, George Washington, Grover Cleveland and Abraham Lincoln!
I've had a look at the Isogg 2018 Y and I trembled at its complexity. What is more I couldn't find any trace of my particular end stop. FTDNA's experimental Y tree was simplicity by comparison but maybe because I knew exactly where to look?
In any case I shouldn't be surprised if Isogg is derived from FTDNA's team work and maybe the occasional cruising by professional genealogist will set us right.
Furthermore, I'd be very wary of Y DNA results from anywhere other than a reputable test centre such as FTDNA with whom I am merely a customer. The Morley "prediction" utility is already hedged about with multiple caveats regarding its accuracy and should only be thought of as a very rough guide.
Lastly, I had a peek at a couple of "name" projects and found therein that not all members appear to have the "name"; there might be a "Smith" and/or a "Brown" in a "Black" name project. Not all had the same Y DNA haplogroup; there were R, I, J, E, A...
Oh, yes I realise it's only a predictor, although I think it's probably fairly accurate as it matches a FTDNA Y test a relative had done. I know you can spend £100s more to get a much more detailed test, I'll have to save my pennies I think
. Re: other names in the one name FTDNA studies - I think that might be because a 'non paternity' event was discovered or deduced.
