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French Shipwreck 1859
« on: Wednesday 03 October 18 18:54 BST (UK) »
Hello, I'm hoping someone can help me find information on a ship named the Olinda. From a  Hampshire Telegraph newspaper article, she was wrecked off the Sussex coast sometime in late 1859. My interest is that my 4x great uncle is mentioned in the article as having in his possession a necktie (wrapped around some coins) that had been found with a body, presumed to have been from the Olinda. The body was found washed ashore in Chichester harbour and my uncle had a pub nearby called the Dog and Duck. I can't find any record of a French ship Olinda. Any help would be appreciated!


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Re: French Shipwreck 1859
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 October 18 19:55 BST (UK) »
Knowing how inaccurate  ??? newspaper reports can be, have you discounted the Lucinde (of Prussia) wrecked 17 Sep 1859 off Minsmere, Suffolk?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_1859

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Re: French Shipwreck 1859
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 October 18 20:33 BST (UK) »
There was indeed a French ship Olinda stranded on the beach at West Wittering not far from a coastguard station in Nov. 1859 (Sussex Agricultural Express 15 November 1859), and there are a number of reports, including lists of people charged at Chichester Petty Sessions with pilfering items from the ship.

The Brighton Gazette of Dec 1st 1859 has this article:
WEST WITTERING.
On Wednesday, the 23rd inst., the body of a man, sup
posed to have been one of the crew of the French ship
Olinda, lately wrecked on the coast of Sussex, was picked
up at the entrance Chichcster harbour, and taken to
West Wittering. The body when found was quite naked,
with the exception of a dark necktie; strange as it may
appear, it was not till after the body had been put in the
coffin and screwed down (although it bad been out of the
water 26 hours), that it occurred to examine the tie, but at
the request of a by-stander, the coffin was opened, the tie
taken off, and in it was found a gold 20 franc piece, 1
franc, 2½ francs, five French copper pieces and a button,
now in the possession of Mr George Goodwin, landlord of
the ‘ Dog and Duck,” West Wittering. As there was one
of the crew missing from the above wreck, there is no
doubt this was the man.


         
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland

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Re: French Shipwreck 1859
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 October 18 22:45 BST (UK) »
A bit more, gleaned from various reports...

The Olinda was an oak brig of 317 tons carrying a mixed cargo from Havre to Pernambuco, S. America. She ran aground in a gale, and the Captain and two seamen were washed overboard and drowned. The remaining crew lashed themselves to the rigging overnight and were rescued next morning. The French pilot died from exhaustion and exposure after being brought ashore, and the bodies lay at the Royal Oak awaiting the coroner.
The wreck was advertised for sale by auction soon afterwards.
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland


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Re: French Shipwreck 1859
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 October 18 15:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone. Philip, I did try variations but didn't come up with much. Isabel, the article you posted from the Brighton Gazette is indeed the article I saw in the Hampshire paper and the George Goodwin mentioned there was my uncle. Where did you find the information in your other reply. Very interesting!

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Re: French Shipwreck 1859
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 October 18 17:58 BST (UK) »
I found the articles via British Newspapers on FindMyPast by searching for Olinda +the year (date is important as there were other ships called Olinda).

Mate's report:  Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser 10 November 1859

Auction advert:  Sussex Agricultural Express 15 November 1859

If you are unable to find them PM me with your e-mail address.
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland