Well done, Goldie!!!
This is practically a miracle! Thank you so much!
More prayers for their souls Willow........
These early sixteenth century guys can go on in this vein for pages.
They were more concerned for their souls than our eyesight, that's for sure ...
I am so sorry for inflicting this horrid handwriting on us all!
More prayers for their souls Willow........
line 5 Snippett 7
Also I bequeth my wyff my place that I dwell in with the rents that long therto for terme of her lyff And
half a yere after And than to remayne to Elyne my doughter she to have it when she com(m)yth to mariage
Snippet 8
in fee symple after the decease of her mother/ Also yf she decease/ than to remayne to Elisabeth my doughter/ And
yf she decease than to remayne to margaret my doughter/ Also I gyve my wyff my two closes with the syke mens
houses and iij Acres of Lande withoute seynt Gyles yates terme of her lyff And after her decease to remayne to
Elisabeth my doughter in ffe symple to gyve and sell/ And yf the said Elisabeth decease or her mother(?) or come not
to mariage /than I will that margaret my doughter have the said Closes with the sykemens houses and the said
iij Acres to her and to her heires for evermore/ Also I bequeth Elyn my doughter v score markes when she is maried
Well, it looks like 'the sick mens houses'................
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Three out of six daughters so far!
(Does quick head math based on the effigy 4 - 2 + 4 = 6. Six daughters and 2 sons in all)
Counts on fingers: Elyne, Elisabeth (after his mother and sister?) and Margaret
When I saw the name
Elyne I was reminded of the whole
Elyse/Olyve thing and my whole life flashed before my eyes
But
Elyne or
Elyn would be what we today would have written as
Elaine, right?
On the other hand, based on the effigy
having the effigies of a mayor in his robes, between his two wives; by the first wife are the effigies of her children, two boys and two girls; and by the second four girls; it being placed here in memory of Richard Aylmer, mayor in 1511, son of Robert Aylmer, who was mayor in 1481, and 1492, and Joan his first wife; he died in 1512.shouldn't he have two wives? I have been paying careful attention, and he only makes reference to one,
my wife's, not
my wives's, and furthermore, said wife appears to be alive, not to have predeceased him ...
On the other hand, if he did have two wives, and does not mention the first one who predeceased him, that strengthens the supposition that Roger Aylmer too had a first wife that he does not makes referral to in his will ... Not a sentimental bunch, this lot.
'Sick mens houses'!!! Of course these people have sick men's houses on their property
and iij Acres of Lande withoute seynt Gyles yates
I remembered the land outside of Saint Giles' gates from somewhere and look and behold:
From his brother Thomas's will:
my Land with ought seint Gyles yates** be sold be myn executo(u)rs and the money y(er)of*** cum(m)yng be disposid in p(er)formannce of this my testament and last
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** without St Giles’ gates (?)
*** thereof
I remember thinking at the time that it was folly to sell prime real estate (I mean, right outside of St. Giles gates like that? Location, location, location), and clearly brother Richard, his executor, agreed
Of course, he could have sold it to himself.
In the same snippet I also find:
the seke mens houses with the gret close therto p(er)tenyng at west Wyk gate
The sick men's houses again!
However, if you look at the full quote:
It(e)m I gefe to John Aylemer my nevy [nephew] the seke mens houses with the gret close therto p(er)teynyng at west Wyk gate to hold to the said John his heir(es) and his assignes for ev(er) more whan he com(m)yth to thage of xxj yer(e)
This precise, specific piece of land was left John Aylmer and his heirs and assignes forever by Thomas Aylmer, his uncle in 1500. Now, in 1509, Richard Aylmer is in possession of it, and leaving it to someone else entirely, his wife, and then his daughter Elizabeth.
A reasonable assumption to make is then that the nephew of Thomas Aylmer, John Aylmer, has passed away by this time.
Since Richard Aylmer is in possession of said land, it is possible that he was John's heir. It is also possible that he was the boy's father. But if John
were the illegitimate son of the sister not mentioned in the father's will, Richard could still have a strong claim to the child's inheritance as his uncle ...
We'll see
Thank you so much again, Goldie! You have performed an absolute miracle here!