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What kind of dish is this? 1610 will
« on: Monday 22 October 18 07:58 BST (UK) »
This word appears twice in this will as a bequest.
3rd line down ' one puter dish and one co? dish'.
The other time it says it is made of pewter too.
Any ideas?
Many thanks.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
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Re: What kind of dish is this? 1610 will
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 October 18 09:57 BST (UK) »
Could it be counterfaite?

Perhaps the second dish was tinplate rather than pewter.

Philip
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Re: What kind of dish is this? 1610 will
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 October 18 10:13 BST (UK) »
Could it be counterfaite?

Perhaps the second dish was tinplate rather than pewter.


Possibly?

Counterfeit
Some flatwares, especially large chargers and various sorts of basin were wrought by hand from flat discs of tin/copper alloy (no recycled pewter was allowed) for counterfeit or hand formed wares. Hammering was especially important in this manufacture, and the products of this craft, the present writer argues, were probably what is described in the 1438 Ordinances as ‘counterfeit’ (Welch I, 11-12) that is contra facio, beaten into shapes using a series of hollowed blocks of wood. An alternative name for ‘porringer’ was ‘counterfeit’ as these utensils can be made this way. Garnishes of counterfeit were sometimes made for the banquet course and were ‘pounced’ or decorated in relief.

http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/3312/2/Archaeology_of_Pewter_Vessels_in_England_Final_Nov_2011.pdf
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Re: What kind of dish is this? 1610 will
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 October 18 10:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks Philip and JenB.
I think you're right.
I have to say I did think it said 'counterfaite', but that didn't seem to make a  lot of sense!  :)
I must keep that link for the future!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs