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Social/Domestic History Sources - 19th century
« on: Wednesday 03 May 06 16:04 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm a bit of a local/social history freak and have a vast collection of books, articles, etc. However, I can't find a really good source book on the 'everyday' lives of ordinary folk in the 19th century.

As a starting point, I always turn to a first year/A level history source - Cole and Postgate, The Common People, but this just doesn't give the information I want.

Anyone found any really good sources?

Gadget

Just found this that might be of interest:

http://www.victorianweb.org/history/sochistov.html
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Re: Social/Domestic History Sources - 19th century
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 May 06 18:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget

This website has interesting information about the life of domestic servants as well as other useful tit bits.  Very enlightening!

http://www.household-management.com/household/chapter41.html

Kerry  :)
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Re: Social/Domestic History Sources - 19th century
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 May 06 18:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

Like you I am into local history but to get a better understanding of the Victorian period I have on my bookshelves the following works that I have found informative and at times very interesting.

The Illustrated History of the House Wife 1650-1950 by Una A. Robertson.

London's Underworld by Henry Mayhew

Life below stairs by Brian E. Huggett

and

A Victorian Household by Shirley Nicholson (which so far I have found to be the best book about life in Victorian society)

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Re: Social/Domestic History Sources - 19th century
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 May 06 18:30 BST (UK) »
Here's an interesting site predominantly based on women in Hastings, Sussex http://www.hastingspress.co.uk/history/index.htm

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Re: Social/Domestic History Sources - 19th century
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 May 06 18:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Kerry

I've had a look at that - it's very funny in places but it does have very detailed descriptions of what was expected of them. I have a footman who became a butler, two parlour maids, a laundress and a number of 'domestic servants'.

Does the course your planning to do from the Autumn have any general refs?  ;)

Hi Old Rowley

Thanks for those refserences - I'll certainly follow them up. They look good to me  :)

And thanks Casalguidi - I'll look at the site now :)

Sorry to be a bit of a nuisance asking this question but I do get so bored with endless tree stuff - it's the lives that are the important things to me.

Gadget  :)

(Every time I try to post, someone is giving me info - thanks ever so  :) )
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Re: Social/Domestic History Sources - 19th century
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 May 06 18:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget

Not sure about refs for the course I am doing yet, I've got to send the application in.  If there are any that might be of interest I will let you know.

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Re: Social/Domestic History Sources - 19th century
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 May 06 18:56 BST (UK) »
Hiya

Ah a fellow social history enthusiast  ;D

The works of Gissing are fictional but are reputed to be reasonably accurate portrayals of everyday working class/lower middle class life, there's a list here:
http://ehlt.flinders.edu.au/english/Gissing/Gissing_HomePage.htm 

I've read most of them, Nether World is I think a very candid picture of working class life based around Clerkenwell London and most of the references are factual.  The Odd Women is an interesting portrayal of working/lower middle class unmarried women, and their options (limited!).  New Grub Street is also intresting from the point of view of the lack of mobility between classes (focusing on working vs lower middle generally).

There's also a book (name escapes me, but will look it up if you're interested) of actual autobiographies/diaries of working class people generally in the mid to late Victorian era - if memory serves me correct, things like Miner, Shopkeeper, Hand Loom Weaver, footman are included.  It's quite expensive as it's been out of print for ages though.  A must read though ...  my copy has been lost  :(

Mayhew's work (and books co-authored by his brother I think) as Old Rowley suggested are seminal works of the time and rare sociological investigations/surveys into working class life.  London Labour and London Poor is excellent.

Hope that helps, and good luck

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 May 06 19:27 BST (UK) »
Like Biker, I recommend some fiction - Dickens, Mrs Gaskell etc.  As a voracious reader I've found information in all kinds of books.  I like old cookery books, for instance.  And I have a facsimile edition of a 1907 Army & Navy Stores catalogue - a huge tome full of fascinating illustrations of domestic items.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 May 06 20:14 BST (UK) »
This is a simply fantastic website Gadget - you can spend hours here - if you haven't seen it, do have a look!

http://www.victorianlondon.org/

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