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SAUNDERS, Caroline, Edward
« on: Monday 07 August 06 02:14 BST (UK) »
Looking for any info on Caroline and Edward Saunders, Caroline died June 1/4 1902 aged 83, they had children Lucy b. 1860 Wales, Frank b. 1859  Ireland, Alice b. 1850 Wales, Ellen Jane b. 1849 b. Dover and Emily b. 1851 b. Wales.
Edward b. Ireland. They lived in the parish of Stoke Within, Guildford, Surrey in latter years.
Jones, Denbighshire, Liverpool, Sheffield
Knollys/Lowe Middlesex,Hitchin, Gloucester
Saunders, Guildford Surrey
Evans, Southampton
Hewgill, Great Smeaton,
Muir, Graham, Coulthorpe, Argyle, Renfrew, Glasgow
Hammond Ayrshire, Dumfries
Perrin, Kent
Page, Nottingham
Trotter, Cranstoun, Dewar, Berwickshire

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Re: SAUNDERS, Caroline, Edward
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 August 06 03:02 BST (UK) »
I have them on 1851 census and 1881-and possibly Edward 1841 -is this the kind of info you are looking for?
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: SAUNDERS, Caroline, Edward
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 August 06 01:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Suzard,
Many thanks, yes I would love to have the census info, if you can manage it.
I am related to Caroline's sister, Emma, kind regards. whisky
Jones, Denbighshire, Liverpool, Sheffield
Knollys/Lowe Middlesex,Hitchin, Gloucester
Saunders, Guildford Surrey
Evans, Southampton
Hewgill, Great Smeaton,
Muir, Graham, Coulthorpe, Argyle, Renfrew, Glasgow
Hammond Ayrshire, Dumfries
Perrin, Kent
Page, Nottingham
Trotter, Cranstoun, Dewar, Berwickshire

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Re: SAUNDERS, Caroline, Edward
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 August 06 09:55 BST (UK) »
You posted Edward was b Ireland, but he seems to put pob as Middlesex on most census

Possibly Edward with a brother?
1841
Harrow
Harry Saunders 16 Middlesex
Edward 15 Middlesex

Both students at harrow

HO107/657/2 12 17

1851
Lannelly Breconshire
Glaslyn Cottage
Edward Saunders Head M 25 Anniutant London Middlesex
Caroline wife 30 Middlesex Uxbridge
Ellen J daughter Kent Dover
Alice C daugh 1 Brecon Llanelly
Emily a daugh 2mths Brecon Llanelly
also 4 female House servants and 1 male Groom
HO107 2490 624 15

not found 1861 yet

1871 Ellen Jane with other family
2 Cambridge Villas Cheltenham
John Weldale Knollys(?)Head 79 Land OwnerHerts Hitchin
Anne Sarah Knollys wife 68 Middlesex Paddington
Ellen Elizabeth Ellis daighter M 50 Middlesex Uxbridge
Georgiana Ellen Ellis Granddaughter U 30 Middlesex Paddington
Ellen jane Saunders Granddaughter U 22 Kent Dover
Charles Milabell 39 Butler Kent
Sarah Smith 34 U Cook Gloucester
Mary Field 27 U Housemaid Gloucester
RG10 2671 57 6

1881 Stoke Giuildford
Waterden(?) Rd
Caroline Saunders Head Married 61 Income from Landed Property(crossed through) Middlesex Uxbridge
Frank Saunders son U 22 no profession Ireland
Lucy Saunders daughter U 21 no profession Wales Brecon
Jane Carter 23 Parlour Maid Hants
Frances A Dash 27 Cook Hants
Elizabeth Parsons 22 Housemaid Surrey Woking

1891
Stoke Guilfors Waterden Rd
Caroline Saunders Head Widow 72 Living on own means Middlesex
Ellen Saunders daughter U 40 Kent Dover
Mary Hall Andrews daughter W 30 Own means Ireland
Ida H Andrews Neice 6 Ireland
Benjamin Bownell M 40 Housemaid ? Ireland
Alice(?) White 28 Parlour maisd Hamps
Lucy Smith 25 S Cook I of Wight
RG12/559 177 36

1901Stoke Guilford
Caroline W Saunders Married 83 Own means Uxbridge Middlesex
Ellen J Falkiner daughter Married 52 Own Means Dover Kent
Madge Sainsbury Visitor Widow 39 Companion Staffs Stoke on Trent
Elizabeth Walton U 46 Cook Surrey Guildford
Katherine Bartlett 24 House maid Surrey
Sarah Luck 19 Parlour Maid Sussex
Mary Collins 58 Married Sick Nurse Stourbridge
RG13 693 72 37

Will have another look later for "missing" census

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: SAUNDERS, Caroline, Edward
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 August 06 17:31 BST (UK) »
Marriage FreeBMD
Jun qtr 1847
St George Hanover Square
Vol 1 Page 60
on same page
Edward Saunders
Caroline Welldale Knollys

Think these are the deaths of Carolines's parents
FreeBMD
Mar qtr 1876
Cheltenham Gloucester
Age 84
6a 313
John Welldale Knollys

Mar qtr 1876
Cheltenham Gloucester
age 82
6a 323
Ann Sarah W Knollys

seems their deaths reg same qtr!

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: SAUNDERS, Caroline, Edward
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 August 06 18:50 BST (UK) »
Have found an Edward Saunders age 16 b Ireland on 1841 but he was a tailor with parents Richard/Ellen - don't think that's him??????

There is also another Edward Saunders same age b.Middlesex on most census -wife Caroline-some children of similar names but not same d.o.b. as "yours". He was a Land Agent and Surveyor.

Haven't found Edward on other census -maybe he was in Ireland?

Anything else you would like a look up on???

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: SAUNDERS, Caroline, Edward
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 August 06 01:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Suz,
Thank you very much for all your great effort, yes Caroline's parents were John Weldale Knollys and Ann Sarah, but I couldn't find any of them in 1871, great you found them. I may possibly be wrong of the place where Edward was born, I think his parents were Irish, but he seems to have disappeared after 1851, doesn't he. Perhaps he and Caroline parted.
Caroline's sister, Emma Susan Hewgill is my gg grandmother. Odd that their parents both died in the same quarter, same year in Gloucestshire.
kind regards, whisky
Jones, Denbighshire, Liverpool, Sheffield
Knollys/Lowe Middlesex,Hitchin, Gloucester
Saunders, Guildford Surrey
Evans, Southampton
Hewgill, Great Smeaton,
Muir, Graham, Coulthorpe, Argyle, Renfrew, Glasgow
Hammond Ayrshire, Dumfries
Perrin, Kent
Page, Nottingham
Trotter, Cranstoun, Dewar, Berwickshire