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Marriage - Biggleswade - BARLEY
« on: Friday 08 September 06 04:41 BST (UK) »
I would like to find a marriage in 1895.
Helen (Ellen) Georgia Barley  born
January 24,1872,Chatham,Kent
I find Ellen Barley marriage to Ernest Petchey or Henry Paull.
I would like to find out if this is the one I am searching.
Helen's sister's Mary and Maud were sent to Canada as home children 1891. We recently became aware of the circumstances that brought about their departure from England.
Maud  my GrGrandmother came here to USA in 1897, I would like to find her sister's family.
Thanks for any help .
Jacqualyn
Barley or Todd in Bromley,Cambridge,Oldwarden,Chatham,Riseley or Biggleswade.

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Re: Marriage - Biggleswade - BARLEY
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 September 06 21:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Jacqualyn
Welcome to Rootschat :D
The marriage you mention is in Camberwell Surrey not Biggleswade

In 1901 there is an Ellen Paul 28 born Sheerness Kent married to Henry Paul born Greenwich living in Greenwich

Only way of finidng out for sure would be to order the certificate to see if father is correct

jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Marriage - Biggleswade - BARLEY
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 00:02 BST (UK) »
 Jan,
Thank You for putting me on the right track, I know nothing of England just from looking at a map.
 I know very little on Helen Barley,she was possibly baptised Ellen Georgiana Barley but called Helen. I am chasing all possibilities to find what happened to her.
 I have per 1880 LDS census Helen Barley born Chatham Kent,is this the same area as Sheerness?
How would I order a certificate?
Thank You,
Jacqualyn
Barley or Todd in Bromley,Cambridge,Oldwarden,Chatham,Riseley or Biggleswade.

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Re: Marriage - Biggleswade - BARLEY
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 08:27 BST (UK) »
Hi
Sheerness is about 12 miles from Chatham - so is fairly likely this is the same person as your Helen/Ellen, especially as you already have that possible marriage. It would be helpful to know where she is in 1891 - have you access to censuses? If not I'll have a look for her for you.
Will be back in a moment with the details for ordering certifcates.
Cheers Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge


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Re: Marriage - Biggleswade - BARLEY
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 10:21 BST (UK) »
This is the link for ordering certificates

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Marriage - Biggleswade - BARLEY
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 04:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jan,
I do not know where Helen/Ellen Barley was in 1891 . I do not have access to the census.
Their Mother (Lavinia) was was remarried to a  J ? Stamford per report on Maud, Miss Rye gave stating Mother ill unable to care for girl stepfather a bad man.( Resided Marlyebone?)
I would like it very much if you would look up census .
Thank You.
Regards.
Jacqualyn
Barley or Todd in Bromley,Cambridge,Oldwarden,Chatham,Riseley or Biggleswade.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 11:18 BST (UK) »
Hi
No luck finding Helen/Ellen in 1891, also looked for the eldest Frank but can't see him either or the youger one Percy ??? Found this family though

1891
38 ?Titchfield St, Cavendish Sq, Marylebone
? Stacy ?Leslie Stamford Head Married 47 Messenger Port Beds Eton Bucks
Lavinia Stamford Wife 44 Beds Risely
Eveline Maud do Daughter?Step 11 London Bow
RG12/89/105 Pg3

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Marriage - Biggleswade - BARLEY
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 11:26 BST (UK) »
This looks like Mary and in Camberwell where Ellen/Helen may have married :D

1891
Canal Bank, 1 Bedford Place, Camberwell
Mary L Barley Visitor S 16 General Servant Dom Beds Warden
in household of
Charles Tompkins 39 Butcher London Hammersmith
Hannah do Wife 40 do do
their children and
William Neville Boarder S 22 Printer birthplace not known
RG12/474/50 Pg28
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Marriage - Biggleswade - BARLEY
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 11:52 BST (UK) »
Hi

On the 1871 census is the parents of Helen details below.

Rg10 909 Dist 28 Pg 21 Folio 133 Chatham Kent Sch 107 No 9 George St

George Barley Head Mar 24 Coporal Mariner Bggleswade Beds
Lavina Wife Mar 24 Coporal Mariner's Wife Risley Beds
Frank Son 2mo Chatham Kent

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