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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 16:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Victoria

On George's marriage cert (1892), father is given as George R T and he (George R T) appears to have married in Sheppey (covers Sheerness/Queenborough) and the family in 1881 and 1901 (George R T) appear to have a link to Sheppey so must be the same one ???

Does that make sense ???

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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 16:40 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if you have this one

1861 "Earl of Liverpool" vessel in Aylesford

Richard HUBBARD 46 captain b.Newington
Frances wife 43 b.Sheerness
George READER unm 21 mate b.Purfleet

RG9/484 folio 70

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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 16:56 GMT (UK) »
1871

5 South Street, Queenborough, Sheppey

Maria PAGE head wid 54 barge owner b.Sheerness
Mary Ann OTTEWILL niece mar 29 sickbay man's wife b. (looks like) Old Street Road, London but I am wondering whether it should be "Old Kent Road" ie. Southwark area ???

RG10/985 folio 19 page 31
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1851 Union Street, Minster (Sheerness), Sheppey

James PAGE head mar 37 lighterman b.(not known) Norfolk
Maria wife mar 35 b.Minster Kent
Sarah WILDISH lodger wid 76 b.Milton Kent
Mary CALWAY niece 10 b.London Middlesex
James NELSON lodger unm 37 mariner b.Milton Kent

HO107/1628 folio 219 page 8
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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 17:08 GMT (UK) »
1851 Thornhills, Maidstone

Robert OTTERWILL head mar 35 lsb
Elizabeth wife 31 working at paper factory
Elizabeth dau 8
George Robert F son 6
John son 4
Thomas son 6m
Philis STARTUP wife's sister unm 22 or 32 working at paper factory

(all born Maidstone)

HO107/1617 folio 632 page 12

So now you need to decide whether it is the mother (M A CALWAY) or the father (George R T OTTEWELL) of young George OTTEWELL bc1872 Queenborough who is the relative of Richard or Frances HUBBARD :-\

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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 November 06 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Casaguidi,

Have worked on these records ALL DAy :(

First of all I did not have 1861 census record.

I have been trying to get name of ship that my Richard Hubbard had connections with. So really pleased with this.

I have hopefully worked out one ?? link.

Mary Calway who married George George Robert Otterill 1869 was niece of Maria Page.

 1851 census  HO107/1628/Folio 219/Page 8.

Maria was married to James Page. I wonder if she is link to Hubbard family.

I wonder if I search for her maiden name /marriage records it may give me a lead,

All the other records you have sent to me link up.

Any ideas

Victoria

COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 November 06 17:52 GMT (UK) »
I think I may have found record linking George Ottewell to
Frances Ottewell.

Marriage 1869 Sept Q.

George ROBERT TILBY Ottewell.

Mary Ann Calway. Sheppey.

IGI Record

Birth 1815 Ludenham Kent

Christening 02/04/1815 Oare Kent



Frances TILBY

Father ROBERT TILBY.

Mother Mary Ann Clackett

What do you think.

Victoria

COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 November 06 18:19 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure :-\

If we put all the available census returns together, Frances/Fanny is always born 1818/1819 Sheerness

1901 Breach Lane, Lower Halstow

Fanny HUBBARD head wid 82 b.Sheerness
John brother mar 78 gen farm lab b.Newington
Charlie WORREN lodger unm 38 gen brickfield lab b.Deptford
Mary BOSWELL lodger unm 38 laundry worker b.Portsmouth Hants

RG13/807 folio 80 page 21
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1891

Hubbard's Cottages, Lower Halstow

Richard HUBBARD head mar 77 retired lab b.Newington
Fanny wife 72 b.Sheerness

RG12/716 folio 80 page 13
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1881

2 Mount Pleasant, Breach Lane, Lower Halstow

Richard HUBBARD head mar 66 gen lab b.Newington
Frances wife 62 b.Sheerness
George OTTEWELL nephew 9 b.Queenborough

RG11/972 folio 84 page 2
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1871

4 Hubbard's Cottages, Lower Halstow

Richard HUBBARD head mar 57 lab b.Newington
Fanny wife 52 b.Sheerness

RG10/981 folio 87 page 7
...........................................

1861

"Earl of Liverpool" vessel in Aylesford

Richard HUBBARD 46 captain b.Newington
Frances wife 43 b.Sheerness
George READER unm 21 mate b.Purfleet

RG9/484 folio 70

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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 November 06 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Isn`t her brothers` surname given 1901 census ??

I see what you mean about Sheerness

Victoria
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Upchurch
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 22 November 06 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Victoria

1901 census says:

John (ditto for HUBBARD) brother so I would think that either he is actually a brother in law rather than brother or that he is her brother and the "surname" is a mistake :-\

Did Richard have a brother, John HUBBARD, born Newington about that time ???

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