Stokes Family

[homegrandchild]

Hi:
New here, but am looking to find any information about the Stokes family. Father William John (1839-??) married Ann Lucas 1860 in Dudley. She died ?? 1880.
They had 6 children: Florence E (1860), Frederick W (1863), Mary/Margaret Ellen (1867), George H (1870),Walter Lucas (1872), and Albert E (1879).

William John Stokes listed as Master saddler from Dudley or Warwickshire.
My grandfather (Walter Lucas) and his sister Margaret (Mary) were sent to Canada with Dr. Middlemore's Home Children program.

Perhaps Frederick was sent to Australia.

I am looking for any information about them or anyone who might be related to them or know when they died and/or where they were buried.

Thanks

[karenlee]

Hi

Not sure how much of this you already have, apologies if none of this is new to you :-


1841 Census England Worcestershire Dudley
HO107/1196/1/16
High Street

STOKES
William 27 Grocer Born in County
Mary A 23 Born In County
William John 2 Born In County
Mary A 3 months Born In County

1851 Census England Worcestershire Dudley
HO107/2023/207/7
High Street

STOKES
Mary Ann Head Wid 33 Wine Merchant Litchfield Staffordshire
William John Son Unmarr 10 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire
Mary Ann Louisa Dau Unmarr 9 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire
Evan Son Unmarr 8 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire
Fanny Dau Unmarr 7 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire
Thomas JAMES Serv Unmarr 26 Shopman Dudley Worcestershire
Harriot JANE Serv Unmarr 24 House Servant Arcup Herefordshire

1861 Census England Worcestershire Dudley
RG9/2055/50/12
Union Street

STOKES
William John Head Marr 22 Saddler Worcestershire Dudley
Ann Wife Marr 22 Worcestershire Dudley
Florence Dau Unmarr 3mths Worcestershire Dudley
William WILLIAM Lodger Unmarr 19 Saddler Stafford Old Hill Ra??ley
Walter William HARPER Appentice Unmarr 18 Saddler Worcestershire Dudley
Harriet CURTIS Serv Unmarr 17 Home Servant Liverpool


1871 Census England Warwickshire Birmingham All Saints
RG10/3129/63/27
6 Eaton Buildings

STOKES
William John Head Marr 31 Saddler Worcestershire Dudley
Ann Wife Marr 31 Worcestershire Dudley
Florence Dau Unmarr 10 Scholar Worcestershire Dudley
Frederick Son Unmarr 8 Warwickshire Birmingham
Mary Ann Dau Unmarr 5 Warwickshire Birmingham
Fanny Dau Unmarr 3 Warwickshire Birmingham
George Son Unmarr 1 Warwickshire Birmingham

1881 Census England Warwickshire Aston Manor
RG113048/62/3
14 High Street

STOKES
William John Head Wid 41 Master Saddler Employing 1 Man Worcestershire Dudley
Florence E Dau Unmarr 20 No Occupation Worcestershire Dudley
Frederick M Son Unmarr 18 Carpenter Warwickshire Birmingham
George H Son Unmarr 11 Scholar Warwickshire Birmingham
Margrett E Dau Unmarr 8 Scholar Warwickshire Birmingham
Walter L Son Unmarr 6 Scholar Warwickshire Saltley
Albert E Son Unmarr 2 Warwickshire Saltley

William John does not appear on any Census after this one.  So I did a check of the death Indexes and found the following :-

There is a death for an Ann STOKES aged 41 Dec Quarter 1880 Aston Birmingham  6d 87.
Also a death for a William John STOKES aged 0 Mar Quarter 1881 Aston Birmingham 6d 170 and a death for William  John STOKES aged 42 June Quarter 1881 Aston 6d 202.  This could well be wife Ann who most probably died in childbirth with William John Junior who died soon after, and your William John.

Albert E STOKES appear on the 1891 Census as an inmate of the Sir Josiah Masons Orphanage, but I have not found him on the 1901 Census yet.

1891 Census England Worcestershire Kings Norton
RG12/2351/23/40
13 Chestnut Road

STOKES
George H Head Marr 24 Jellers Traveller Warwickshire Birmingham
Amelia Wife Marr 28 Warwickshire Birmingham
Dorothy Dau Unmarr 2 Worcestershire Moseley
Priscilla STYCH Serv Unmarr 35 General Servant Shropshire Tibberton


1901 Census England Worcestershire Kings Norton
RG13/2807/7/6
Ascot Road "Lynnedale"

STOKES
George H Head Marr 38 Manufacturing Jeweller Warwickshire Birmingham
Amelia Wife Marr 38 Warwickshire Birmingham
Dorothy Dau Unmarr 12 Worcestershire Kings Norton
Violet Dau Unmarr 9 Worcestershire Kings Norton
Clifford Son Unmarr 2 Worcestershire Kings Norton

Just above this entry was

STOKES Ernest D Boarder Unmarr 31 Jewellers Manager Warwickshire Birmingham


1901 Census England Warwickshire Aston Deritend
RG13/2866/19/30
256 Green Lane

STOKES
Frederick Head Marr 38 Press Tool Maker Warwickshire Birmingham
Edith Wife Marr 40 Warwickshire Birmingham
Fred Son Unmarr 8 Warwickshire Birmingham
Mary BANNISTER MinLaw Wid 81 Gloucestershire  Gloucester

Hope that this helps
Karenlee

[J.J.]

Not that it helps...but this likely was one more birth
Birth Sept. Q. 1867
Harry Lucas Stokes    Aston   v.6d   p.327
Death Sept. Q 1868
Harry Lucas Stokes  0   W. Bromwich  v.6b  p. 470


Marriage in 1908 Birmingham for an Albert Edward...
The Frederick in 1901 has middle name Charles...Can anyone check the 1881 image to see if middle initial is an "M" for certain...or perhaps a "W"
1910 for a Florence E. in Birmingham
The 1911 should certainly have some news for you...

[J.J.]

homegrandchild doesn't seem to be answering this thread, will p.m. to notify...but I will always add any new information to a homechild thread, for anyone who may be searching.

You likely have more than this by now but am adding for those searching:

There is a marriage June Q. 1881 Birmingham for a Florence Emily - vol. 6d  p.39
  with Thomas Charles BERWICK  (Harry John BUSSELL) on page
In 1901 there is a Florence Emily "Bewick" age 40 born Dudley Worcs / Warwickshire  Aston
Births March Q. 1861  Dudley for Florence Emily Stokes    vol. 6c  p.131

Birth Dec. 1863 for a Frederick    may prove me wrong as no middle name or initial "M"

1867 Harry Lucas Stokes

There is this George Henry Stokes  Sept. Q. 1869 Birmingham vol.6d  p.202
In 1901 there is a George Stokes age 33 born Birm War / Birmingham,Harborne a Railway Clerk

Births for Margaret Ellen Stokes  Sept Q. 1872  Birmingham - vol.6d   p.195

Birth for an Albert Edward Stokes June Q. 1878 registered in Aston district  vol.6d  p.437
so the marriage in 1908 looks good  ( There is also an Albert Dec 1879 Aston, but the family seems to be given middle names prior to Christening)

[Tootles]

Hi What a wonderful find to help me on my novice step into family history
My GG Grandfather William Stokes and my G Grandmother Fanny Maria Steventon nee Stokes
I do wonder what Mary Ann Stokes maiden name happened to be
Shame home grandchild is no longer posting
Thank you very much

[J.J.]

Yes I tried pming her a while back will try again now..The poster has been online since I last left a message but did not post any acknowledgements on any threads.... I also found a duplicate posting here...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,204444.0.html

These children's christenings did not reveal her surname https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7R1-PYL
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQZD-LMG https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NYNB-YM9
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NTBP-V3Y

looking at the 2 in the earlier census household, did someone check for Jane or James?  perhaps someone could check as they both may have been servants in the household...or servants outside the household...
mind you just noted Mary Ann was born Litchfield Staffordshire...1841 said Worcestershire
 

[Tootles]

Thanks J.J. 
The christenings are very interesting thanks for posting them I knew about Litchfield but still have not progressed
I seem to be barking up another tree at times

Well appreciated.

[louisebeswick]

hi my name is louise mary beswick my nans name before she married was stokes from worcestershire ares her nane is frances mary stokes born 1927 her dad was george edward stokes dont know year and her mum was mary ellen palmer not sure of year not sure if this is anything for your family if it is please get intouch thanks louise

[Ladyhawk]

f m stokes born 1927
her dad was george edward stokes dont know year
her mum was mary ellen palmer not sure of year

Hello and welcome to Rootschat 

Are you looking for any information on your Stokes family? If you want to find marriage or birth entries
they can be found on FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Certificates can be ordered from GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ each certificate costs £9.25

FreeBMD shows that
George & Mary married Mar qtr. 1924 Kidderminster

Death details for George on An* y

Probate 7 Sep 1965 Birmingham to widow Mary Ellen
George Edward Stokes of 62 Spencer Street Kidderminster died 4 Aug 1965

Death entry FreeBMD shows he was born c1900
George E Stokes Sep 1865 Kidderminster

Death for Mary Ellen

Mary Ellen Stokes died age 76 born 2 Feb 1902
Registration district:    Kidderminster Volume: 29 Page: 0545

possibly Mary Ellen's birth entry

Mar 1902 Mary Ellen PALMER Bridgnorth (Shropshire) vol   6a page   594

Birth entry
George Edward Stokes Mar qtr. 1900 Kidderminster Vol 6c page 268

This is possibly George with his parents on 1901 census obtaining his marriage certificate would confirm who his father was or his birth certificate would confirm both parents names

1901c  RG13; Piece: 2771; Folio: 21; Page: 16
Brettles Cottages
George E Stokes 39 (1862) Upper Arley Worcester occ. Gen Lab. he died age 78 1940 Kidderminster
Fanny 40
James H 16
Frances M 13
Lizzie A 11
William 8
Alfred 5
GEORGE E age 1 (1900) Upper Arley Worcester

FreeBMD
George Edward Stokes married  Jun 1882 Kidderminster name on same page Fanny JAY

Can't provide details from the 1911 census but you can search the free index
costs credits to view, http://www.1911census.co.uk/