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CARVER Ramblings
« on: Wednesday 24 November 04 15:02 GMT (UK) »
 Look-up no longer needed - thread  now a general Carver ramble and gathering of the clan! 
full refs for these people in 1851 in Wrestllingworth. If anyone is able to do that it would be much appreciated.
Young Carver born Wrestlingworth circa 1799 wheelwright
Mercy Carver his wife born Wrestlingworth circa 1801
James Carver  born Wrestlingworth circa 1830 Wheelwright
Alice Handley (married James Carver in 1852) born Wrestlingworth  circa 1825
Letitia (Letty or even Louisa) Handley Alice's mother born in  Cockayne Hatley circa 1806
Any other Carver's in the village would be of interest as they all appear to be related. Thank you in anticipation Jan
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Carver 1841-61 Census Wrestlingworth
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 November 04 20:22 GMT (UK) »
You were right; there were a lot of Carvers in Wrestlingwoth. I couldn't see Letitia Handley though

1841  HO107/002/26

Alice Handley 15 Female servant born in county, in household of William Twiss 35 clergyman


George Carver 50 wheelwright
Mary Carver 45
Simeon Carver 18 ag lab
Sarah Carver 14
Ann Carver 12
Noah Carver 9
Henry Carver 5
All born in county

Charlotte Carver 25
Edward Carver 5
Jesse Carver 2 (male)
Jonathan carver 1
Mary Carver 20
All born in county

James Carver 30 ag lab
Sophia Carver 25
Amos Carver 9
Jabez Carver 4
All born in county

Thomas Carver 20
Lydia Carver 20
Sarah Carver 1
All born in county

Young Carver 40 Wheelwright
Mercy Carver 40
William Carver 17 ag lab
John Carver 13
James Carver 10
George Carver 7
Alfred Carver 5
Ann Carver 5mths
All born in county

Give me a few minutes and I'll see what I can find in 1861 - I don't have the 1851 yet.

Regards

David


Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Carver 1841-61 Census Wrestlingworth
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 November 04 20:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks  David.  Further confirmation at last that Young is almost certainly James' father. Had rather hoped there'd be a wheelwright still alive who could be Young's father, but you can't have everything!  ;) Jan
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Carver 1841-61 Census Wrestlingworth
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 November 04 20:57 GMT (UK) »
1861 Wrestlingwoth RG9/995

Jesse Carver Sen head married 48 foreman on farm b Wrestlingworth
Charlotte Carver wife 47 b Cambs Morden
Jonathon Carver son unm 21 ag lab b Wrestlingworth
Mary Ann Carver dau 15 straw plaiter b Wrestlingworth
William Carver son 6 scholar b Wrestlingworth
David Carver son 17 ag lab b Wrestlingworth


Young Carver h m 66 wheelwright
Mercy Carver wife 60
Ann Carver dau unm 22 straw plaiter
Alfred Carver son unm 25 wheelwright
Levi Carver son 15 ag lab
All born Wrestlingworth

James Carver h m 30 wheelwright
Alice Carver wife 35
Martha Carver dau 9 scholar
Ruth Carver dau 7 scholar
Robert Carver son 5
Rachel Carver dau 3
John Carver son 1
All born Wrestlingworth


George Carver h m 73 wheelwright
Mary Carver wife 65
Simeon Carver son unm 37 ag lab
Noah Carver son unm 28 ag lab
Eliza Carver grand dau 9
All born Wrestlingworth

Mary Stratton h widow 41 straw plaiter
Ann Carver sister unm 29 straw plaiter
All born Wrestlingworth


Jesse Carver h m 23 ag lab b Wrestlingworth
Elizabeth Carver  wife 26 straw plaiter b East Hatley Cambs
Edward Carver son 5 b Wrestlingworth
Ann Carver dau 1 b Wrestlingworth

Thomas Carver h m 41 ag lab
Sofia Carver wife 40 straw plaiter
Sarah Carver dau unm 20 straw plaiter
David Carver son 19 ag lab
Matilda Carver dau 16 straw plaiter
Thomas Carver son 13 scholar
Samuel Carver son 11 scholar
George Carver son 5 scholar
All born Wrestlingworth

Hooray, that's all of them! Glad it wasn't a big village!

Regards

David






Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: Carver 1841-61 Census Wrestlingworth
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 November 04 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that  David, very kind of you. I think 1861 must have been a peak year for Carvers.  All the best ;) Jan 
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Carver 1841-61 Census Wrestlingworth
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 November 04 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Jan

I agree that the James who married Alice in 1852 certainly appears to be Young's son, as the ages fit perfectly.  The marriage cert/parish register would ccnfirm this.

Was James christened as a 16 year old in 1846, as there is a christening of James, son of Young and Mercy on the IGI?

Regards

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Carver 1841-61 Census Wrestlingworth
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 November 04 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi David
Unfortunately James and Alice's marriage certificate confirms nothing as they both declined to give father's details.  I've seen the IGI christening and assumed it was as you suggested. That along with James and Alfred Carver being listed, together, in 1890 Kelly's as village wheelwrights and Mercy Carver appearing on 1871 census as Alfred's mother led me to believe Young and Mercy were James' parents. Now your 1841 and 1861  info  makes this even more certain. Probably the best I'm going to get  until the 1851 census becomes available. Thank you again
Regards Jan  :) ;)
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Carver 1841-61 Census Wrestlingworth
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 November 04 20:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi

If you find a link between your Carver ancestors and Norfolk, let me know. I thought my family came from E Yorks until I uncovered a couple of brothers had moved there in the 1840s. Their cousin moved to Newcastle at about the same time. This might indicate a propensity to being itinerant within the family and Bedfordshire is much closer.

I have Thomas Carver b1680 at the top of my tree at present, so there is room for somebody to have moved. However, if you know that  your family are Beds since the dark ages, kindly disregard this note.
E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell

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Re: Carver 1841-61 Census Wrestlingworth
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 November 04 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nick
No Norfolk links that I know of. They are certainly Wrestlingworth bound back to late 18th century. If any links crop up I will let you know.
Happy searching ;) Jan
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge