john snowdon

[sudee]

I have an ancestor JOHN SNOWDON who gives his birthplace as Warwick Cumberland in the1861 census but Carlisle in 1871 census. I have been unable to find a baptism for him (circa 1810) though I have looked at Parish records and the IGI for that area. I have found the family in Warwick  in 1811 with other children born after that date to father JOHN SNOWDON married to MARY STOREY both from Northumberland. Any help on this would be appreciated.
from Sudee

[Geoff E]

Hi Sudee, welcome to Rootschat

The IGI for Warwick doesn't start until 1813 but you say you've looked at the register for earlier dates anyway.  I see they married in 1808, had daughter Mary in May 1809.  Then I guess you've found another in 1811 in Warwick ... was there enough time for a child between Mary and the one bap in 1811?

Could he have been baptised with another name, then adopted his father's name when he left home?

[Charjack]

Hi, I have just joined RootsChat but have been also been struggling with the same John Snowdon for some time.  We believe that we are linked to him through his daughter Margaret.  Sorry nothing new to offer with regard to John's life in Cumberland  at the moment but was wondering if you have made a break through. Will post another reply if I find anything.

[morskaj]

Hi Charjack,  There is a John Snowden born in Carlisle in 1809, another born in Warwick in 1811.  There is also one christened in St. Mary's Carlisle, 22/10/1808.  Look on www.familysearch.org.  Hope that doesn't confuse things further, Morskaj.

[emmsthheight]

Hi Sudee

Just a thought - have you looked at Warwick Bridge Roman Catholic register which start well before this date, and also the Quakers.  I think most of the other non-conformist registers are later.

Also, have you looked for baptisms for the osiblings in case just an odd one has been missed.  Is that wherre you got the other children from?  If there's only John missing, and p[arents are from Northumberlasnd, could they havr gone back to visit, or nipped over the border into Annandale?

I don't know how wide you've spread your search either, but with Cumbria being so rural, most people were not living next to the parish church for the parish named in the census and may well have been baptised quite a long way away, especially if the father was a farm worker and moved between censuses.

By the way, was the 1811 on another child's baptism?

Just a few thoughts.

Best wishes

Emms

[sudee]

Dear Emms
Thank you for your reply.  I found siblings on the Warwick  parish registers from 1811 to 1820 when the family moved to Armanthwaite. The first daughter Mary SNOWDON had been born in Rothbury in 1809 but I have been unable to find John although he gives his birthplace as Cumberland in the 1851 census and as Warwick Cumberland in the 1861 census.  I have tried looking at parishes close to Warwick and have also trawled through many parish registers in Northumberland thinking he may have been baptised on the journey from Rothbury to Warwick.  I have not tried Catholic or Non conformist registers for the Carlisle area.  Are they available?
Thanks
Delia

[Gan Yam]

I have quite a few family members that give their place of birth as Warwick.  They were baptised at Wetheral.  Have you tried the Wetheral registers.

You can search the non parochial records at the archives at Carlisle, but some are also available on line at www.bmdregisters.co.uk.  (sorry not clever enough to make it a proper link).  It has quaker records and other churches.

Good luck

Julie

[emmsthheight]

Hi Della

Thank you for the reply.

Yes, there are Roman Catholic Registers (Filmed copies), in the local studies library in The Lanes Carlisle, and also in the records office at Carlisle Castle.  They actually predate the Carlisle ones but they are also available in both places for these dates - only one RC church at the time.

The Quaker returns start long before this date and are available on film in the record office.

Having said that, now I know you have the others in the parish churches, this seems a bit of a long shot.

The other nonconformist registers that I can think of or are on m my list start from a later date.

Looks like  a bit more trawling I'm afraid, but I'll have a think.

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi Julie

Welcome to Rootschat!

Looks like your link worked anyway!

Besrt wishes

Emms