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Re: "Simple"?? in Darwen? Turns out it says Sough
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 September 07 02:21 BST (UK) »

Raltall ..... maybe  ?? Ralfall ::) ... looks like the "R" in Richard  !! ...... or ....Maltall ......... ??

oooh errr ! ........ that's a hard one !!

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Re: "Simple"?? in Darwen? Turns out it says Sough
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 September 07 10:17 BST (UK) »
I think it begins with R as well,  as in the capital R for Richard.  There's a district called Rosehill next to Sough, and a tiny street called Rosehill St, to the left of.
The writing doesnt look much like Rosehill but then it didnt look like Sough either! :-\



 
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Re: "Simple"?? in Darwen? Turns out it says Sough
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 September 07 10:19 BST (UK) »
Should have said, to the left of Sough St.  Darn wireless keyboard, batteries always die in mid-sentence
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Re: "Simple"?? in Darwen? Turns out it says Sough
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 September 07 17:18 BST (UK) »
The used of Sough - Suff) in the glass making factories meant a sewer or a drain.



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Re: "Simple"?? in Darwen? Turns out it says Sough
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 September 07 00:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,  I live in Darwen,  and yes the recording is Mill St, Sough.  Pronounced Suff.
Sough is a district of todays Darwen.  But before Darwens developement into the town known and seen today, Sough was a village or hamlet situated on what was then road to Bolton, adjacent to Spring Vale Village long before the building of todays A666 which considerably shortened the Journey from Blackburn to Bolton.   Both these villages have been drawn into Darwens Built up area over the last 100 years.

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Re: "Simple"?? in Darwen? Turns out it says Sough
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 September 07 02:02 BST (UK) »
The used of Sough - Suff) in the glass making factories meant a sewer or a drain.


Hello Dancing Master and All.
I am laughing about the word Suff, I remeber my Gran in the early 30's in the kitchen with the old stone shallow sinks, and when the plug was pulled out  & the water went down the drain hole it made a "slurping" noise she used to say It's gone down't Suff. A vey old Lancashire saying.

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Re: "Simple"?? in Darwen? Turns out it says Sough
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 25 September 07 10:18 BST (UK) »
Interesting that 'sough' was a glassmaking term. A few weeks ago I was trying to avoid doing some real work (surely not, everyone cries  ;)), so I looked up the word 'kali', meaning to me, the stuff you got from the sweetshop that was like sherbet but a lot sharper taste. The dictionary said kali, another name for saltwort or glasswort, a spiky plant used in the glass making process.
So now I'm left wondering; how do you make both glass and a sweet from a spiky plant, is 'kali' a Northern word only, can you still get kali the sweet, and does it relate in any way to the modern expression 'I was absolutely kali-ed' . Apart from the dictionary definition, I have never seen this word written down.
There's a lot of scope for reviving the phrase 'gone down't suff' though. As in 'the council plans for a new city academy have gone completely down't suff' 
 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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