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Maycocks to Canada 1901
« on: Sunday 06 April 08 19:38 BST (UK) »
I hope I'm writing this in the right place.  ???

I have just found two previously unknown ancestors THANKS TO THIS SITE - wonderful - thanks.

But now I find that my grandmother's brothers were in an institution called The Children's Emmigration Homes, St Lukes Road, Birmingham. 

Samuel Maycock aged 11 and Arthur aged 12 set sail on the Sicilian from Liverpool in May 1901 and were bound for Halifax in Canada. I found this on The Middlemore Homes Index. I've also found a history of the schools which I have only skimmed through as yet. Worryingly Arthur was classed as a labourer and Arthur a child - would this mean they would be split up? :'(

I need to know the best way of tracing what happened to them. I have found an Arthur who was a Canadian soldier during WW1, but cannot access those records.

Can anyone advise me on my next steps?

Barbara
Reeves and Maycock of Herefordshire, Warwickshire and London and Canada
Lloyd of Dollgellau. thomas of Anglesey.
Mathias of Wales.
Foley of Warrington and Canada

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Re: Maycocks to Canada 1901
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 April 08 20:15 BST (UK) »
Home children were often split up, unfortunately. Many were sent to work for farmers in Canada
http://www.bifhsgo.ca/home_children_index_how.htm
 - it seems you can ask for more help here and should be able to get fuller records on them.
 
The WWI records you should be able to get to for free here:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

There is an Arthur there who says he was born Nov 5 1892, Warwick, England, and had a brother Charles in the army in India. However, a Bruce Miller is also named (handwritten down the side of the form) as a contact.

www.automatedgenealogy.com shows in the NB census of 1911, presumably the same Arthur Maycock at:
1911 / New Brunswick / York / 8 Douglas Parish / page 17
He is listed as 22, b. Nov 1888, came from England in 1900 - more or less correct. Living with the Miller family (including Bruce). This could possibly be your Arthur.

Unfortunately, this Arthur also died in WWI:
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=596459
Parents are given as Frederick William and Eliza Maycock.

I can't spot any other Arthur of the right age or any Samuel in the 1911 census.
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Re: Maycocks to Canada 1901
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 April 08 21:33 BST (UK) »
I don't know if you have this or not, but just in case, here is the passenger list

Manifest
http://tinyurl.com/4fvonv

Janice
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Maycocks to Canada 1901
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 April 08 22:47 BST (UK) »
Can I just thank everyone again. This morning I couldn't find my grandmother - now I have so much more - thanks to all of you who have helped me. It's all very sad unfortunately but I'm also very happy to have found them.

Barbara
Reeves and Maycock of Herefordshire, Warwickshire and London and Canada
Lloyd of Dollgellau. thomas of Anglesey.
Mathias of Wales.
Foley of Warrington and Canada


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Re: Maycocks to Canada 1901
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 April 08 23:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Barbara -


A good thought with Arthur - shame birth date and father don't match what we know.

Milly
McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: Maycocks to Canada 1901
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 00:16 BST (UK) »
I'd just like to say that we have worked on and solved dozens of Home children queries, and although not saying it is for certain that this is your Arthur...many do not remember a lot of details about their parents... some remember nothing...(parents listed as unknown)
In this case he may have remembered his father's first 2 names as being Frederick William ( as opposed to Frederick Thomas) ....
They've had quite a life, and often had to deal with the death of one or both parents, poverty( & then sometimes left by the remaining parent ) then being shipped off to work houses or children's homes...and then off to another country where they are sometimes schooled under very strict conditions, then sent to work where they were sometimes considered lesser beings....Some did end up as best friends with the families they worked for...as may have been the case here...
Just saying must leave all minds open to suggestions...keep all notes....
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the parents whom are thought to be for these children are on this query
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,297004.0.html
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Re: Maycocks to Canada 1901
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 02:21 BST (UK) »
From the middlemore site Barbara looked at......the Arthur found in 1911 is definitely BHC ...so if you believe the boys in the U.K. middlemore are the correct ones...these are they
although both say dates for birth is in 1900 that is obviously a typo somewhere  for that heading as it is the year before or the year that they landed...

MAYCOCK Arthur age  12  ( LAC site has him as 13)  has date of birth Nov. 5th
MAYCOCK Samuel  age 11 -  date of birth Dec. 24th
and both are down as having settled in New Brunswick

from the middlemore listings:
http://www.bifhsgo.ca/special_projects/home_children/Middlemore-Index/M-Index.htm

middlemore listing from the 1901 census
MIDDLEMORE CHILDREN'S EMIGRATION HOME
Edgbaston, Warwickshire
http://tinyurl.com/48wh3w

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Note: the second domestic Minnie Griffiths is also a BHC
GRIFFITHS Minnie  age 7 / ship Siberian / 1906
http://www.bifhsgo.ca/special_projects/home_children/Middlemore-Index/G-Index.htm

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Re: Maycocks to Canada 1901
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 03:01 BST (UK) »
I went to school in Montreal with a Fred Maycock in the 70s. It's sort of an unusual name...never run across it since...

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Re: Maycocks to Canada 1901
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 06:16 BST (UK) »
I have gone through the 1911 with a fine tooth comb...so Samuel may have been grossly miss transcribed... doesn't seem to show on free peek into U.S. census...so might he have gone back to the U.K. by then?

the boys are mentioned in " John Throgmorton Middlemore and the Children's Emigration Homes" ...ancestry has it under "public stories" but not sure if there is more to be found in there than just the mention of their arrival...
 
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