Frederick and Philip GRIFFITHS SA

[wimbush1975]

Looking for any info on Frederick Henry Griffiths born 1864 and his brother Philip Griffiths born 1866 in SA, parents Robert Henry and Charlotte Anne nee Winzor. Can find some info on Frederick and his marriage and children, but nothing on Philip? Would love to find out more about Frederick's children and if they had families??
Thanks

[krisesjoint]

Hi Wimbush,

BISA

GRIFFITHS Robert Henry arrived by 1864 residence Wallaroo
married Charlotte Anne born c1846 died 10 June 1924 buried Payneham SA
children Fredk Henry (1864-1949), Geo Phillip (1866-1925)

GRIFFITHS George Philip died 27 June 1925 Hospital Fullaton Dist Ade 479 348 He was aged 58 married residence Fullaton Relative not recorded

Cheers Kris 

[wimbush1975]

Thanks for that, i had him as Philip, explains why i couldnt find anything on him, i have the birth disk of SA and it had him listed as Philip, where did you find the George bit?

[krisesjoint]

Hi Wimbush,

Yes the birth lists Phillip, but the BISA and the death list him as George Philip. I am not sure what you are after here. I do not see any births to Frederick in SA (He did marry in SA) nor do I see any Griffiths marriages listing a father as Frederick. Likewise the death for George Philip lists him as marriage but I see no marriage nor births listed to him in SA

Cheers Kris 

[wimbush1975]

Thanks, youve help alot. Frederick had his 4 children in NSW so maybe George went there too for a while. Do you have any info on Charlottes family? I have her dad as Philp Winzor/Winzer, but would like to find out her mothers name etc.
Thanks

[krisesjoint]

There are also entries in the BISA for the boys

GRIFFITHS Fredrick H. parents Robt Henry and Charlotte Anne born 25 Sep 1864 Pt Wallaroo SA died 1 July 1949 buried Payneham SA residence Wallaroo, Nth Adelaide rel: Meth
maried Annie nee HARRIS parents Thos Bult and Eliza Jane nee TUCKFIELD born 14 Oct

GRIFFITHS George Phillip parents Robt Henry and Charlotte Anne born 23 Dec 1866 SA died 27 June 1925 buried Payneham SA
married Phoebe Augta born c1869 died 11 June 1955

GRIFFITHS Phoebe Augusta died 11 June 1955 Hospital Erindale Dist Nor 827 3080 She was aged 86 a widow residence Erindale Relative George Phillip GRIFFITHS [Deceased Husband]

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Charlotte appears to have quite a few siblings marrying in SA including a brother Philip George. There are some BISA entries for some of the siblings listing parents as Philip and Eliz and one says born Dorset 1850 arrived 1855 aboard the OCTAVIA

Charlotte Ann WINZAR Mar 1/4 1846 Dorchester 8 55

I also note Robert Richard was listed in Dorchester in 1850 as stated in BISA

The family appear in Bradford Pererell in 1851

Mother Elizabeth 41 Married Masons Wife is the head (Huusband not present) - Sharlotte is 5

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Philip WINZER died 28 Jan 1873 Wallaroo Dist Dal 51 33, He was aged 61 Status not Known, Relative not recorded, residence Wallaroo

There is a passenger list for the OCTAVIA

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/octavia1855.htm

I see a James is listed as single male - perhaps family are WURGER family, son James only looks like being 6 in 1851 so don't know what to think

Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Philip WINZOR = Elizabeth SAMWAYS by Banns 27 Jan 1834 Fordington Dorset. Witnesses Philip Winzer and Elizabeth Samways

In 1841 oldest child Frederick is 3 (fits with 1851) Philip aged 30 is a plasterer and there is George Samways 60 in the house so this marriage looks great. There is also a Philip Winzer aged 50 a plasterer in Fordington so all fits very nicely.

Cheers Kris