Desford burial, 1811 - UPTON thread!

[Annie65115]

Victorian books wrote of the death in 1811 of one John Upton of Desford, who had worked for 93 years as a FWK.

I think this is probably my direct ancestor and am really rather chuffed, it's my closest brush with fame yet! 

Does anyone have a copy of Desford burial records for 1811 and if so could they possibly check any details of this death/burial? I realise it probably won't say much but would be very grateful for any snippets.

Muchas gracias

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s Again Annie……

Fiche No'. DE 370. / 4.

St: Martin’s Parish Church
Desford.

Burial Registers read thus :~

BURIALS ANNO DOMINI.:~ 1811.

John Upton Buried…28th. April. .......Aged. 102.

So that makes it that he started work aged…….. 9.
And worked to the day of his death
to achieve those 93 years as a Frame Work Knitter……….Umm


But to be fair his was the only entry which had an age written down.

MIKE.

[Annie65115]

Thanks, Mike.

Obviously the figures are likely to be a bit flexible; his age may well have been a little out. I don't find it odd that he would have started work at 9 or younger; some references to him in Victorian literature state that he worked to the age of 93 rather than for 93 years.

Either way, let's not split hairs -- that's a lot longer than I plan to go out to work! 

[anastarr]

John Upton who died in April 1811 is/was my 6th great grandfather.   The Desford Parish register is confusing.  Someone has inserted 1712, I believe in error.  The page prior is 1811 & the page after is 1811 & signed by the official.  Then the next following begins 1812.

 His son Thomas Upton b 1747 is my 5th great grandfather.

The jpgs are from the Parish registers, 1559-1875  Church of England. Parish Church of Desford (FHC microfilm)

Obituary:
John Upton of Desford, Leicestershirer, died 1811, aged 100.  He was a framework knitter, in the coarse worsted branch, and at the time of his decease had worked for one manufacturing firm in Leicester, Moore & Co., during the unparalleled long period of ninety-three years, having commenced his monotonous unremunerative drudgery whilst he was yet in his eighth year.

What is your line from John?

Anne

[Annie65115]

Nice one, Anastarr - I've seen the copy of the Desford records but it's good to see them again!

John is/was my 7x gt grandfather, again through his son Thomas and then Thomas's son William.

[anastarr]

That is my line also!! - William & Anne Archer Upton > John Upton christened:19 May 1793 Desford & died 3 Feb 1868 Desford & his 1st wife Rebecca Lester b 17 Nov 1788 & died in Desford 20 Jun 1816; (John's 2nd wife was Anne Fradstain) > Henry Upton christened 13 Jun 1813 Desford & died 23 Mar 1879.- My 2nd great grandfather.

I have a many many pages of the Desford Parish register copied if you need any.

I have probable parents of John Upton (the 100 yr old) as John Upton & Martha Bradshaw & wonder what you think of this possibility??

 If he was an infant in 1716 he was still a tiny bit short of the 100 mark, but what the heck.  That is still old even by 2010 standards!

John Upton was christened 11 Nov 1716 Woodhouse; parents: John Upton & Martha Bradshaw.  Woodhouse is pretty close to Markfield I think??  His father John was christened 19 May 1678 Long Watton & was married 24 Nov 1710 to Martha Bradshaw.

Anne

[Annie65115]

I'm descended from John Upton and Ann Fradsham (not Fradstain!).

I have seen a marraige for John Upton and Rebecca Lester but hadn't realised that this was the same John -- are you sure of this? My line is through John and Ann's oldest son, Augustus (I would love to know where that name came from, it doesn't seem to have been in either family!)

I have a copy of John's will, made in 1858, and it mentions his children as: Augustine; William; Charles; Dora; Charlotte; Ann Elizabeth. (no Henry!!) You probably know that John and Ann's tombstone is in Desford churchyard?


re the centenarian John - I've seen trees which name his parents as the Woodhouse couple but I have yet to be convinced. When he married, he was said to be from Markfield and there was a Markfield family of Uptons at the time - for this reason I rather favour Henry and Elizabeth Upton of Markfield as his parents -- unless someone has seen some evidence to persuade me otherwise!    Although I havn't found any baptism for a son John to Henry and Elizabeth, Henry's will leaves a substantial part of his assets to "his son John".

You won't be able to send pm's until you've got a couple more posts but once that's done, if you want to mail me off the board, feel free though I'm happy to exchange info here where others can see it and perhaps help too.

[Annie65115]

btw the Uptons in Long Whatton go back to the mid-1600s but came there from Egginton, in Derbyshire.

[WGU]

I thought I was descended from this line, thus:

John 1709ish
Thomas 1747
William 1770

but I have William's son John (1793) m. Mary Dexter Desford 1813/14, not Ann, and this John died 1837, not 1868. Their first child, Ann, was born Desford 1815, but thereafter the children were born in Stanton-under-Bardon, down to my father in 1906.  Mary is down as a widow on the 1841 census and my line is solid down from there, so the question is - were there two John Uptons born Desford around 1793? His headstone says he died in 1837 aged 44, hence the 1793 birth date.

Can anyone shed light on this?