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Jessie Crown and Philip Cohen
« on: Wednesday 13 January 10 08:08 GMT (UK) »
I am interested in Jessie Crown and Philip Cohen, my mother's parents, who came to Australia from Glasgow in the early 1900s: probably in mid 1912.

I have their marriage in 1910 and thus the names of their parents: Solomon and Ethel Crown (nee Black), and Isaac and Annie Cohen (nee Hertz). I also have Solomon's 1906 death record.

Certainly Jessie and her father and probably her siblings (Lena, Bessie and a male) came to Scotland in the early 1900s from the Russian Baltic States (the Pale). Similary, Philip who was born in present day Lithuania also came from there with or (more likely) without parents and siblings.

I would like to know: more about any of these eg when/how they arrived or departed; even better still, their history before arriving in Scotland...

I would also like to know more about Jessie's siblings (Lena married a Mr Swirsky and the family eventually became Swan; I understand a Leon Swan, who probably is in his 90s still lives in Glasgow).
Isaacs and Bollegraaf families (Australia 1911 on, London around 1900 to 1912. The Netherlands before that. Herman Isaacs (in London and AU), Herman Izak (in Netherlands)

Elizabeth Italiaander (b Amsterdam 1876) and her antecedents.

Jessie Crown (born probably Lithuania, died in Sydney AU in 1952)
Philip Cohen, her husband (born Latvia or Russia, died Sydney AU 1933) and their antecedents and families.

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Re: Jessie Crown and Philip Cohen
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Galloway,   Landers,   Lindsay,  Gillespie,  Irvine
Erskine,   McAdam,  Hawthorn
Robertson,   Duncan,   Edmonstone,    Black
Anderson,  Nicholson,  Crombie,  MacDonald
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Re: Jessie Crown and Philip Cohen
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 20:02 GMT (UK) »
There is a death of Ethel Crown m.s Bloch, wife of Solomon, 17th March 1928. parents are listed as Isaac & Annie Bloch (both deceased) and is registered by Lena Swirsky (daughter).


Ramsay, Struthers, Stark (Avondale, Lanarkshire) Haughey, Martin (Ballyrashane) Neely, Fraser (Londonderry) Hill (Anderston, Glasgow), Cranstoun, Carruthers (Dumfries) MacIndoe (Springburn & Bridgeton, Glasgow) McKay (Springburn, Glasgow) Fraser (Paisley)

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Re: Jessie Crown and Philip Cohen
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 January 10 20:47 GMT (UK) »
That's very helpful thanks Davieboy!

Philip and Jessie's wedding record has a very clear Ethel Cohen MS Black, while Solomon's 1906 death record clearly says Bloch.

I think this and other stuff shows "Black" is the error!

Because I naively posted my query in two places, the bulk of this discussion is going on elsewhere.

I suggest that any further discussion, as KirstyG suggested, moves there.

See thread on Scotland General Board:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,430270.msg2948581.html#msg2948581
Isaacs and Bollegraaf families (Australia 1911 on, London around 1900 to 1912. The Netherlands before that. Herman Isaacs (in London and AU), Herman Izak (in Netherlands)

Elizabeth Italiaander (b Amsterdam 1876) and her antecedents.

Jessie Crown (born probably Lithuania, died in Sydney AU in 1952)
Philip Cohen, her husband (born Latvia or Russia, died Sydney AU 1933) and their antecedents and families.